Substance Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 He never said they weren't talented. He said they were overrated. (He doesn't think they're as pleasing to listen to as everyone says.)P.S. Dream Theater is the best band ever. I can't really stand Dream Theater Your definition of 'overrated' are quite different then my. "Regarded more highly than is deserved."I'm sure you'd agree that rated would mean how good someone thinks something is. You might rate a band's music lowly, does that mean they're untalented? No. Is it your opinion? Yes.He thinks they're overrated, that people rate them higher than he thinks they actually should be rated. It's still an opinion no matter what.Therefor the lack of music knowledge lmao. I quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanhart408 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 both are brilliant but I went with Zep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Zeppelin>Supertramp>Pink Floyd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 These days I wouldn't willingly listen to either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becket Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 i like pink floyd but they're extremely over rated in my opinionWhen people say that Pink Floyd are overrated, they show their lack of musical knowledge.When people don't know what an opinion is, they show their lack of intelligence.This isnt a question about opinion. If you say Pink Floyd is overrated, you obviously don't manage to see the truemusical genius of Pink Floyd. I don't mind of you don't like them, but I react when people say they are 'extremely overrated.'Agreed.Pink Floyd for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) i like pink floyd but they're extremely over rated in my opinionWhen people say that Pink Floyd are overrated, they show their lack of musical knowledge.When people don't know what an opinion is, they show their lack of intelligence.This isnt a question about opinion. If you say Pink Floyd is overrated, you obviously don't manage to see the truemusical genius of Pink Floyd. I don't mind of you don't like them, but I react when people say they are 'extremely overrated.'It is your opinion that Pink Floyd is good. His opinion is as valid as yours. Commit some more fallacies, please.I beg to differ. I don't mind if you like Pink Floyd or not. You can't say that musical skills is a matter of opinion? I don't like John Petrucci, and Dream Theater better than Ramones. But I do accept that John Petrucci is a better guitarist than Joeyby miiiiles, and Dream Theater are ten million times 'better' musical-wise than any of the members in The Ramones.so much for musical knowledge, Joey werent a guitarist. and just as Johnny Ramone cant play like Petrucci, by the same token, he cant play like Johnny, he cant play that fast, for that length of time, with that kind of continous meticulous kind of timing. why'd you think it was so hard for the ramones to find a drummer until they came across mark bell? its not that people cant play the ramones music, its just that they cant play it the WAY ramones played it. you're starting to show a distinct lack of musical knowledge here RP, and i dont even play well at all music simply doesnt work that way, i mean, i could make a case for Mark Bell, the ramones drummer (Marky ramone) being better than Keith Moon if i wanted to. Moonie was a fucking legend, just incredible behind the kit but he was like that because the music of the Who afforded him the space and oppertunity to be so, to provide those lavish drum fills and physical histrionics but when it came to like, keeping time, like jazz type drumming, he was hopeless, he was what you might call a lead drummer, he'd look to the lead guitarists and bounce off the riffs as opposed to the bass as the typical rhythm sections do, it just wasnt his niche (precise timing i mean), Marky however had impeccable timing, still does...is that to say moonie sucks all of a sudden cuz he cant play those oh so simple ramones tracks? of course not, does that then make marky crap cuz he cant do that other shit? no...music simply does not work like that.its not about better or worse...different types of musicians work for different types of music. Edited December 5, 2007 by ffrankwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pain cake Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Nah, give 'em both a skip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wando Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I don't know. At the moment I'm more into Zeppelin, though. It's weird, when you're into Pink Floyd you're really into it and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) Pink Floyd.I never got into Led Zeppelin. Edited December 5, 2007 by Spoon87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lithium Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 It is your opinion that Pink Floyd is good. His opinion is as valid as yours. Commit some more fallacies, please.Shut the fuck up about the opinion-crap, it's just a lame excuse for people to escape a discussion.And Zepp is the better band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCGNR Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 This is like asking me who I'd rather screw - Jessica Alba or Jessica BielI'm happy with both , and would'nt complain if stuck with either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMonk Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hmm hard choice considering I don't really like either of them...I'd go with Zeppelin seeing as they are just a little less boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 i like pink floyd but they're extremely over rated in my opinionWhen people say that Pink Floyd are overrated, they show their lack of musical knowledge.when people disagree with you they show their lack of musical knowledge? i didn't know the topic said "just agree with Raw power" i've listen to lots of pink floyd and they're good but nothing over the top. i think musically zeppelin are streaks ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Rose Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I always find it somewhat amusing when people compare groups where it is goig to be someone voting their opinion Genre rather than their opinion group. This comparison if very apples vs oranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 i like pink floyd but they're extremely over rated in my opinionWhen people say that Pink Floyd are overrated, they show their lack of musical knowledge.when people disagree with you they show their lack of musical knowledge? i didn't know the topic said "just agree with Raw power" i've listen to lots of pink floyd and they're good but nothing over the top. i think musically zeppelin are streaks ahead Musically Zeppelin are streaks ahead? WHAT? Again.. WHAT? Are you kidding me? Seriously? You're obviously doped. Ffrankwhite: I can't believe I wrote Joey That's one of the most embracing things I've ever said Believe me, Im a hughe Ramones fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevdo242 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 Bloody hell, get a grip of yourself. Anybody can disagree but you're just being a dick about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Substance Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 so much for musical knowledge, Joey werent a guitarist. and just as Johnny Ramone cant play like Petrucci, by the same token, he cant play like Johnny, he cant play that fast, for that length of time, with that kind of continous meticulous kind of timing.I'm pretty sure Petrucci can play 3 notes for 2 minutes straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffrankwhite Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) so much for musical knowledge, Joey werent a guitarist. and just as Johnny Ramone cant play like Petrucci, by the same token, he cant play like Johnny, he cant play that fast, for that length of time, with that kind of continous meticulous kind of timing.I'm pretty sure Petrucci can play 3 notes for 2 minutes straight.for 45 minutes a gig with barely a break between songs, at breakneck speed, all downstrokes, all the while keeping perfect time? all barre chords? i'd like to see it...theres a very distinct reason why it always took the ramones a hard slog to find replacements for Dee Dee and Tommy. Edited December 6, 2007 by ffrankwhite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagofala Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Pink Floyd. Never really liked Led Zep a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 i prefer led zeppelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Raptured Light Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Pink Floyd has Dark side of the Moon and the Wall.While Led Zeppelin has....Led ZeppelinLed Zeppelin 2Led Zeppelin 3Led Zeppelin 4And Physical Graffiti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max™ Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Pink Floyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Power Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Pink Floyd has Dark side of the Moon and the Wall.While Led Zeppelin has....Led ZeppelinLed Zeppelin 2Led Zeppelin 3Led Zeppelin 4And Physical Graffiti.The Wall is probably Pink Floyd's worst records. Pink Floyd has: The Piper At The Gates Of DawnUmmagummaAtom Heart MotherObscured By CloudsDark Side of The MoonWish You Were HereAnimalsThe Wall(The Devision Bell) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Sephiroth- Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Pink Floyd has Dark side of the Moon and the Wall.While Led Zeppelin has....Led ZeppelinLed Zeppelin 2Led Zeppelin 3Led Zeppelin 4And Physical Graffiti.I think Houses of the holy is better than grafitti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 It is your opinion that Pink Floyd is good. His opinion is as valid as yours. Commit some more fallacies, please.Shut the fuck up about the opinion-crap, it's just a lame excuse for people to escape a discussion.And Zepp is the better band.Discussions are about offering your opinions and responding to other people's opinions...no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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