jarvispmitchell Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Watching the new Rio videos made me wonder.... do you think Axl feels proud of himself? To see him on stage out of shape and off-key and sulking and complaining and giving a c- effort, I'm just left wondering how that guy keeps going through with it -- to the extent that he does go through with anything, at least. When he comes off stage, do you think he beats himself up at all, or is disappointed in himself? Or do you think that he's so delusional that even if he's capable of noticing how bad he sucked, the powers of cognitive dissonance would allow him to interpret said sucking as someone else's fault -- i.e. the sound guy, former managers, god for making it rain...I'm not just talking about the latest Rio non-performance but his entire life's trajectory in general. I think moments like these, when he sucks on a big world stage with a lot of attention, would naturally be times when he'd be forced to kind of take stock of himself and reassess things. So is he proud of himself, do you think? Proud of his performance last night? Proud of his artistic integrity? Proud of how he looks and sounds? Proud of all he's done over the last 15 years with the band he fought so hard to gain control of?If you think Axl still is somehow proud of himself, then how much farther do you think he has to sink before his perspective on himself starts to align more with that of his fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm not going into massive detail but I think the song OTGM sums up Axls view of most situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Watching the new Rio videos made me wonder.... do you think Axl feels proud of himself? To see him on stage out of shape and off-key and sulking and complaining and giving a c- effort, I'm just left wondering how that guy keeps going through with it -- to the extent that he does go through with anything, at least. When he comes off stage, do you think he beats himself up at all, or is disappointed in himself? Or do you think that he's so delusional that even if he's capable of noticing how bad he sucked, the powers of cognitive dissonance would allow him to interpret said sucking as someone else's fault -- i.e. the sound guy, former managers, god for making it rain...I'm not just talking about the latest Rio non-performance but his entire life's trajectory in general. I think moments like these, when he sucks on a big world stage with a lot of attention, would naturally be times when he'd be forced to kind of take stock of himself and reassess things. So is he proud of himself, do you think? Proud of his performance last night? Proud of his artistic integrity? Proud of how he looks and sounds? Proud of all he's done over the last 15 years with the band he fought so hard to gain control of?If you think Axl still is somehow proud of himself, then how much farther do you think he has to sink before his perspective on himself starts to align more with that of his fans?Proud of himself? WTF. He's really messed up I'm guessing. Kinda like Michael Jackson being surrounded by yes men (well documented with the trial now). Who knows what Axl's 'yes men/women' are telling him. And who know's what meds they have him all spaced out on. So many people sucking off the teet of him it's sad now. Too bad he can't break free and return to greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 hecwas probably sick, missed a flight, didn't really want to go on, it was raining, the mix was bad etc. He fought through it and did a decent show. this is what happens when you play Estranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 He's not proud of himself. But I'm sure he tries to act and believe he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketQueen1985 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Very good topic actually. I just think he's really unhappy. He starts out positive, makes jokes etc but as soon as something goes wrong he no longer is in control and keeps thinking about it and then he gets stressed out and as result of that makes more mistakes and then things starts going down hill and he cant handle it and storms off stage, flips out on a fan, a bandmember etc. I dont think hes proud, not at all. I think hes insecure and for every year that passes it gets worse. He cant not be affected by all the hate and negativity he gets, can he? Maybe thats why he is so rarely seen in public, to avoid that. I dont know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 if you want paint by numbers rock there's always Bon jovi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 of course he IS .... and is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvispmitchell Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 if you want paint by numbers rock there's always Bon jovi.I think there's more middle ground than you're willing to accept right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowmass Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 if you want paint by numbers rock there's always Bon jovi.I think there's more middle ground than you're willing to accept right now.We can haze Bon Jovi all we want but the facts are they are in shape, good looking (not in a gay way), actually rehearse, are a band in true sense, promote themselves (sell outs?? or not), and they basically sell out every tour (arena & stadium) in a heartbeat. All Axl has to do is 1/2 of what Bon Jovi do: Get in shape, be punctual, kick ass, train/rehearse and they'll be on same level, even with this line up. But Axl is either A-too lazy/doesn't care or B-under the spell of too many yes people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Axl is just unpredictable, well probably see muchbworse and the best shows of all time on the up coming tour. I don't hate Bon j it's just we know what Axl is like by now. I like my fair share of nerd bands, GNR just isn't one of them. Axl was probably drinking with Brazilian models all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm guessing he went backstage, trashed his dressing room, and has been partying ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvispmitchell Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 Axl is just unpredictable, well probably see muchbworse and the best shows of all time on the up coming tour. I don't hate Bon j it's just we know what Axl is like by now. I like my fair share of nerd bands, GNR just isn't one of them. Axl was probably drinking with Brazilian models all night.Speaking of nerd bands, I don't think Slash would have ever botched a solo because he was too busy trying to dress up like a Star Wars character. Heroin and whiskey, yes... but Star Wars, no. At least it's an improvement over the Buckethead years, when they'd play music from Star Wars too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 bands can butcher the fuck out of songs as long as it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm guessing he went backstage, trashed his dressing room, and has been partying ever since.I doubt that. If anything, someone got fired (not in the band) and he's been upset about the show. You don't go party after what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Axl needs a wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 shit at least there wasn't a riot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvispmitchell Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) shit at least there wasn't a riot.Totally true. And at least he didn't crap himself on stage.Depending on how you look at it, last night was a raging success. Edited October 3, 2011 by jarvispmitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_Coffa Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 i love gnr.. obsessed. but that fuckn hurt. MICKEY FUKN MOUSE FOR REAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Axl needs a wife.He couldn't afford the kitty litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 comes with the territory. it's not like this is something new. like I said there are more stable predictable bands. I guess the next show will be great, or a no show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Largo Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Axl needs a wife.He couldn't afford the kitty litter. :rofl-lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvispmitchell Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 comes with the territory. it's not like this is something new. like I said there are more stable predictable bands. I guess the next show will be great, or a no show.You seem to think predictable and competent are synonymous. They aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 comes with the territory. it's not like this is something new. like I said there are more stable predictable bands. I guess the next show will be great, or a no show.Thats not the point is it?, yeah I could go watch Bon Jovi but its not my thing.I guess its a lot to ask that the front man of my fav band puts in the effort, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm sure he's the most critical about himself as much as he is to the people around him. He knows when a show is off; he acknowledged it. I thought the comment he made about not being able to run around on stage was funny though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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