Guest NGOG Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) http://m.brisbanetimes.com.au/entertainment/no-illusions-necessary-20130315-2g5p8.html-You're going to hear the hits, cool, deeper cuts, and some new stuff.By new songs, I was referring to songs from Chinese Democracy, Reed hastily clarifies. I dont think well be trying out any new material but, you never know, anything could happen.-There you go. Senior members of the band still consider 'new material' to entail the songs on Chinese Democracy. The band, obviously under the instruction of Axl, are playing to the generic concert audience, with little to no consideration for the hardcore Chinese Democracy fanbase. The debut of new songs is a distant possibility. That's the reality.I'm not complaining, I'll see GN'R when they drop by. But the fact is we aren't getting any closer to the phrase 'This a new song' and people either need to embrace that or give up. Edited March 16, 2013 by NGOG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Yeah 4 and a half year old releases aren't new Dizzy... and you played em in 2009. Don't use the word new.By deeper cuts he prob means Estranged and Civil War right? Edited March 16, 2013 by jimb0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why are people so obsessed with what they have not got?If the songs were complete they'd be out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah 4 and a half year old releases aren't new Dizzy... and you played em in 2009. Don't use the word new.By deeper cuts he prob means Estranged and Civil War right?I understand where he's coming from when he uses the expression 'new' to describe the Chinese Democracy songs. Those songs are still relatively new in the sense that most people declined to give them a chance. Also, there are certain songs from Chinese played more sporadically, unlike the staples from that album like the title track or more recently, Catcher.Reed's comments would be more buyable if GN'R were making a concerted effort to force the record into the live environment. And four Chinese songs a show doesn't exactly constitute that. It's almost like Axl doesn't even like his own record anymore, but in vein promotes it anyway.Why are people so obsessed with what they have not got?If the songs were complete they'd be out..Because Axl talked those songs up so much until 2009 when he done a complete U-turn and suddenly became disinterested in the topic. As I said, it's like his passion for that direction of material, the stuff done with Bucket and co, stopped.Complete songs doesn't result in immediate release. That's a very naïve view of the industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Drama Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Chinese Democracy songs are not new anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 yeah songs that have been played for over a decade now are not new...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If CD songs were new today, AFD songs would have been considered new in 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weaponsnflowers Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I am sure that to anyone but Axl there are complete songs. He would propably like to tinker with his material forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 There you go. Senior members of the band still consider 'new material' to entail the songs on Chinese Democracy. The band, obviously under the instruction of Axl, are playing to the generic concert audience, with little to no consideration for the hardcore Chinese Democracy fanbase. The debut of new songs is a distant possibility. That's the reality.Did you just realize this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I think theyll play something new on this tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I'm disappointed that they haven't played any new AC/DC songs yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 In Axl's own twisted time scale he must believe that CD is indeed a new record...I'm happy with the 'greatest hits' setlist being played in the recent shows, just don't understand why Axl chooses to cover a song like 'The seeker' instead of playing more UYI songs that everyone would relate to and love... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 If CD songs were new today, AFD songs would have been considered new in 1992.agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Considering they were written in 98-2003, they're not very new LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I guarantee there are completed songs we haven't heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrandyk Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why are people so obsessed with what they have not got?If the songs were complete they'd be out..If the songs were complete they'd be out? Most of CD was done years before the record label forced its release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Someone should tell Axl to shit or get off the pot. He reminds me of Dante in Clerks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I truly feel sorry for the deluded fans who think they'll hear new material this year. Fuckin' lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR123GNR456 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yeah, 4 year old songs are new. And 7 of the songs off of Chinese Demcoracy have been around since 2006.Dizzy can be as deluded as possible, but these songs aren't new.It's like Metallica saying Death Magnetic is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Its not even like they have to play new songs, as in unheard. If they mixed up the setlist a little more, the shows would be more memorable. Add in some deep cuts from the Illusion albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 the fact that they still call a 5 year old album "the new stuff" is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 the fact that they still call a 5 year old album "the new stuff" is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 the fact that they still call a 5 year old album "the new stuff" is pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrjanus Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Chinese wasn't promoted the way it should.It was a bomb when it was released and people did buy it. but It could have been bigger if promoted enough.And I think this band today is a stable band, before guys were coming and going and it wasn't a band. but ever since 2009 this band has kept a stable course.Got on stage on time! this band hasn't had a line-up change since Dj Ashba joined. theya re rocking out all over the world and people are getting to know the songs from the latest album. And it's still time to promote that and tour on it.Money is in touring right now, since album sales are just really down low.Yeah to people who have kept by Axl since the break up (Post 96) we know most of the songs.since 2001 they have been touring songs like, Street of Dreams, Chinese democracy, Rhiad, Madagascar, and since 06 added I.R.S, Twat, Better and even on the 2001-02 tours he played prostitute and the 06-07 tours.so We the guys and girls who have been on gnr's side ever since know the songs word for word.but a lot of people beside the 10 guys and girls standing in front do not know which songs they are playing when they do play chinese democracy songs.So it's great to see that a lot of songs have become a stable in the set since 09-10-11-12-13and people are getting to know them and singing along to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Yes, they havent had a lineup change since 09 but Axl is truly asking for that. And I truly hope the guys give it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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