WhazUp Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think he knew about the meth before he saw them on TV. He read the newspapers and the meth was mentioned in it.Oh really I didn't see that, that could be possibleI just don't see Walt flat out killing them - they may have pulled a dick move (albeit totally understandable) distancing themselves from the whole Heisenberg case but these were the people who offered to pay for his medical bills - even though Gretchen and Walt didn't end things on the best of terms I just can't see him effectively ending their lives because they wanted to keep their business. He is too calculated and not a cold blooded killer by natureThe Nazis on the other hand stole his current empire, the illegal meth version of Grey Matter if you will. That cash and legacy of Blue Sky is something that I assume he cares more about taking back. Killing the Grey Matter people won't cause anything to happen to Walt's benefit whereas the Nazis being dead will ensure his legacy and the money to possibly funnel to his family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think he knew about the meth before he saw them on TV. He read the newspapers and the meth was mentioned in it.Oh really I didn't see that, that could be possibleI just don't see Walt flat out killing them - they may have pulled a dick move (albeit totally understandable) distancing themselves from the whole Heisenberg case but these were the people who offered to pay for his medical bills - even though Gretchen and Walt didn't end things on the best of terms I just can't see him effectively ending their lives because they wanted to keep their business. He is too calculated and not a cold blooded killer by natureThe Nazis on the other hand stole his current empire, the illegal meth version of Grey Matter if you will. That cash and legacy of Blue Sky is something that I assume he cares more about taking back. Killing the Grey Matter people won't cause anything to happen to Walt's benefit whereas the Nazis being dead will ensure his legacy and the money to possibly funnel to his familyTHIS. Walt has already build a company, been cut out, and feels the pain of that loss. He sees Lydia doing the same with Blue Sky; she has taken it over, and all of Walt's surviving ex-partners (Jesse, the Nazis, Todd, Lydia) are reaping the rewards. Walter White would let himself be walked all over like that; Heisenberg will not. Even if it means going out in a blaze of machine gun fire, no one is taking away Heisenberg's empire. Walt was searching for Heisenberg all episode without success: he tried to threaten Saul, but collapsed; he put the hat on and tried to leave the cabin, but was too weak; he tried to bandy his money about to control Saul's Fixer, but he wouldn't have it; he couldn't even support his family, his sole reason for creating Heisenberg in the first place. At the end of the day, it's the old egotism that gets the fire back under Heisenberg's ass. And now, Heisenberg is back. You're damn right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nobodys_Fault Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 But that's why this award show shit is such crap to me.It should be less about politics and more about who's earned the most stripes.Bryan, at the very least, deserved to win. And him winning three times already should have nothing to do with him not winning again if he truly deserved to win on his merits.It's not about politics though... the Emmy for Best Actor is awarded based on ONE episode. Cranston was nominated for "Say My Name" and Jeff Daniels was nominated for The Newsroom pilot. Based on the performance in those two episodes - Daniels deserved his win.Cranston will be nominated for Ozymandias next year and I don't think there's much chance anyone tops that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 But that's why this award show shit is such crap to me.It should be less about politics and more about who's earned the most stripes.Bryan, at the very least, deserved to win. And him winning three times already should have nothing to do with him not winning again if he truly deserved to win on his merits.It's not about politics though... the Emmy for Best Actor is awarded based on ONE episode. Cranston was nominated for "Say My Name" and Jeff Daniels was nominated for The Newsroom pilot. Based on the performance in those two episodes - Daniels deserved his win.Cranston will be nominated for Ozymandias next year and I don't think there's much chance anyone tops that.Didn't know that's how it worked. So what episode were Anna, Aaron, and Jonathan nominated for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 dont want it to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobodys_Fault Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 But that's why this award show shit is such crap to me.It should be less about politics and more about who's earned the most stripes.Bryan, at the very least, deserved to win. And him winning three times already should have nothing to do with him not winning again if he truly deserved to win on his merits.It's not about politics though... the Emmy for Best Actor is awarded based on ONE episode. Cranston was nominated for "Say My Name" and Jeff Daniels was nominated for The Newsroom pilot. Based on the performance in those two episodes - Daniels deserved his win.Cranston will be nominated for Ozymandias next year and I don't think there's much chance anyone tops that.Didn't know that's how it worked. So what episode were Anna, Aaron, and Jonathan nominated for?Jonathan was also nominated for "Say My Name". Anna Gunn won hers for "Fifty-One" and Aaron Paul was nominated for "Buyout". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Do most people on here expect Walt to suddenly turn into Rambo for the final episode? I don't know, I have a hard time believing that Walt suddenly becomes proficient and strong enough to take out an entire gang of well trained Nazis with one gun. Would anyone else find this potential ending disappointing? I'm really hoping that the conclusion to this great show isn't that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think the gun could be misdirection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 That video... Dexter is so lame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The Emmy's are sh*t.Both Keri Russell and Mathew RHys should have been nominated for The Americans; and don't even get me started on Tatiana Maslany not receiving any love for Orphan Black. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Do most people on here expect Walt to suddenly turn into Rambo for the final episode? I don't know, I have a hard time believing that Walt suddenly becomes proficient and strong enough to take out an entire gang of well trained Nazis with one gun. Would anyone else find this potential ending disappointing? I'm really hoping that the conclusion to this great show isn't that simple. I've had that thought in the back of my mind since I saw the gun in the first place. Guess we'll find out in a few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 For me the Nazi confrontation and how he goes about it are an afterthought. I just want to know what happens between him and Jesse when they inevitably run into eachother again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobodys_Fault Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 don't even get me started on Tatiana Maslany not receiving any love for Orphan Black.Could not agree with this more. She was fucking amazing in that. The Emmy's just seem to disregard sci-fi entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I think Emmy talk should go to another thread because this thread is about a TV show, not some useless ego-stroking award ceremony. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 I've watched that Finale ad that was shown after the latest episode at least 10 times and it gives me chills every single time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B98x6Z-zgiE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Probably silly, but does anyone else think that the Ricin might not get used?Sorta like how we all thought "Heisenberg" written on the wall had some sorta backstory?Maybe the ricin is some sorta "joke" VG is playing on the fans? Another fan on another forum had this theory. Thoughts? Edited September 25, 2013 by SunnyDRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Very possible. We can only speculate right now, Gilligan may throw a curveball with the ricin. We really don't even know how the M60 is going to be used, just piecing together what makes the most sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 I was thinking the same thing, like maybe Walt was headed over to ABQ anyway so might as well throw it away possibly to save innocent future house buyers from accidently killing themselves with it or somethingBut I don't think they would show him very specifically going to get it if it wasn't going to play a major part in future events Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 But I don't think they would show him very specifically going to get it if it wasn't going to play a major part in future eventsWith this show, they might. The writers like to fuck with the viewers a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 At this point, all especulation is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gia Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 The promo really made me sadhttp://youtu.be/3HAQt2sKC_EGreat show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 But I don't think they would show him very specifically going to get it if it wasn't going to play a major part in future eventsThey did that before with the bodybags in the plane flash forwards in season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy_Stradlin_XX Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The promo really made me sadhttp://youtu.be/3HAQt2sKC_EGreat showYou just know that when the promo for a show is this epic, the finale is going to be tremendously good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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