Slash2baz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 i'll find out the exact quote from Myles but he said "Too Far Gone" is not about someone in particular....Withered Delilah was written after he read an article about entertainement: actresses getting old in Hollywood and how is hard to find a job, i'll find out the quote too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Really think Withered Delilah is about Axl...You are the clown for what you areYou had to break out every trick you could pullBut there comes a time when everything must turn offBack to the start againBack to the place where you come fromStuck out of viewMy withered delilahYou know it's true that no one cares anymoreStuck out of viewYou had your timeBut now your moment is all but goneOh it's goneLost in a dazeWhat have you done?Diggin' a grave to be your ownYou're soon to fadeBut just too blind to let goOf what you hadAnd what you wereIrrelevance hurts but you're not aloneSo pack your diamond ringsAll your pretty thingsAnd just move along'Cause there's always somebody else to replace youWhen you are gone(When you are gone, Hey yeah)The moment is all but goneThe moment is all but goneOh it's goneWithered Delilah = Axl Rose (delilahs are a kind of rose, and Axl is getting on a bit). Break out every trick you could pull = keyboards and synths and session players for ChiDem. Diamond rings, well, Axl wears a lot of them. "Irrelevance hurts", and "the moment is all but gone" seem to point to the futility of any reunion now. I know Myles supposedly wrote all the lyrics but maybe Slash snuck this one in there They're all about Axl. Safari Inn as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remove Safari Inn and you are removing the best track on the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash2baz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Too Far Gone: It's about a personality type: a person whose actions will usually bring about consequences that are not necessarily the best. The song isn't about anybody in particular - it's about a type. A type we all know.WD: it's inspired by an article I read about the entertainement industry, and the movie industry in particular. A lot of times when actresses reach their later years, they're not used any more in films. they kind of become irrelevant because their beauty fades.Quotes from WoF Classic Rock Fan Pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skik08 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 1. World on Fire2. Shadow Life3. Automatic Overdrive4. Wicked Stone5. 30 Years to Life6. Bent to Fly7. Beneath the Savage Sun8. Withered Delilah9. Battleground10. Avalon11. The Dissident12. The UnholyWould've been a much better album.How DARE you leave out dirty girl! It's so funky. Also, too far gone and safari inn are epic tracks. The dissident is a load of bollocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When he has to clarify that it isn't about anybody in particular, it's about someone in particular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) When he has to clarify that it isn't about anybody in particular, it's about someone in particular.LOL. Holy crap, backup singer even has Slash's hair!!!! Edited September 30, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) I'm so bipolar with this album. Just listened to the entire thing again and I'm starting to appreciate it in a "one sitting" sense like I did Apocalyptic Love. It definitely loses steam in the second half though.Stone Blind, Too Far Gone, Withered Delilah, Dirty Girl, Iris of the Storm, Avalon, The Dissident, Safari Inn and The Unholy are all completely expendable.I'd also like to apologize for what I said about Wicked Stone. Wonderful song.Stone Blind? Really? I LOVE that song hahaha. I like most of those songs to be honest.. I actually love Iris of the Storm, but I didn't care for it early on. I was CRANKING it the other day.The only songs I could really do without are probably Avalon, Shadow Life and Disident.. Edited September 30, 2014 by Tom-Ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Really think Withered Delilah is about Axl...You are the clown for what you areYou had to break out every trick you could pullBut there comes a time when everything must turn offBack to the start againBack to the place where you come fromStuck out of viewMy withered delilahYou know it's true that no one cares anymoreStuck out of viewYou had your timeBut now your moment is all but goneOh it's goneLost in a dazeWhat have you done?Diggin' a grave to be your ownYou're soon to fadeBut just too blind to let goOf what you hadAnd what you wereIrrelevance hurts but you're not aloneSo pack your diamond ringsAll your pretty thingsAnd just move along'Cause there's always somebody else to replace youWhen you are gone(When you are gone, Hey yeah)The moment is all but goneThe moment is all but goneOh it's goneWithered Delilah = Axl Rose (delilahs are a kind of rose, and Axl is getting on a bit). Break out every trick you could pull = keyboards and synths and session players for ChiDem. Diamond rings, well, Axl wears a lot of them. "Irrelevance hurts", and "the moment is all but gone" seem to point to the futility of any reunion now. I know Myles supposedly wrote all the lyrics but maybe Slash snuck this one in there They're all about Axl. Safari Inn as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 1. World on Fire2. Shadow Life3. Automatic Overdrive4. Wicked Stone5. 30 Years to Life6. Bent to Fly7. Beneath the Savage Sun8. Withered Delilah9. Battleground10. Avalon11. The Dissident12. The UnholyWould've been a much better album.Better than the original album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Overall I'm digging a few tracks.Already skipping some stuff.17 tracks of Myles in a row is a bit hard to digest.I hear some cool tracks musically but Myles sometimes drags them back to an '87 Sunset Strip vibe which doesn't work for me at all. Some of the lyrics and melodies he comes up with...I dunno. I think Slash has a solid backup band but for future releases if he wants to take things higher it might be time to look around for a new front man. There are a few go to tracks for me, then I find myself hitting the skip button...nope...nope...nope.Having said that, I looove these guys live and can't wait to see this tour a time or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) Overall I'm digging a few tracks.Already skipping some stuff.17 tracks of Myles in a row is a bit hard to digest.I hear some cool tracks musically but Myles sometimes drags them back to an '87 Sunset Strip vibe which doesn't work for me at all. Some of the lyrics and melodies he comes up with...I dunno. I think Slash has a solid backup band but for future releases if he wants to take things higher it might be time to look around for a new front man. There are a few go to tracks for me, then I find myself hitting the skip button...nope...nope...nope.Having said that, I looove these guys live and can't wait to see this tour a time or two. Interesting. Wondered why you were being so quiet. What you state is exactly how I felt about AL and had rather low expectations for this album--but I love Myles on this. No weariness at all which is shocking. So I even went back to AL to see if I had just "gotten use" to Myles now--and I still want to take a F'in sledgehammer to my speakers hearing Myles on faster AL tracks like Halo. Total 360 for me on this record, but he does have a voice a lot of people aren't gonna take to. Commercially it's a detriment, don't think there's any doubt... Edited September 30, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I've had it in the car solid since it came out.I kept hoping I was going to reach that "oh my god this is amazing' level with it as a whole.It's not happening.In fact, I find myself playing fewer tracks and I'm ready to take a break and pop something else in the deck for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragan1978 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I have been listening this album for 10 days, few times a day, on the work, in the car, at home and I just couldn't let it go! I took 3 days off of listening the album but I'm still waiting my friend to bring me the original cd in few days and I will just lay back in my couch, pour some good "rakija" in my glass and blast it off all day 'til the roofs come falling down I just can't think of any song that I would cut off of the album, everytime I found something new, new riff, new voice, new drum or break down in some song that I haven't notice so every song is like a new beggining cheers and thank U Slash, Myles & Conspirators for bringing the rnfcknroll back! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentonneskeleton Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 When he has to clarify that it isn't about anybody in particular, it's about someone in particular.Myles is getting a little defensive, eh? You know what that means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So we've gotten to the point of--Poor Myles, guy can't even write lyrics with his usual themes w/o some of the GNR fan base wanting to apply it to Axl.Poor Axl, any song about the subject being out of control and/or causing his own downfall is assumed to be about Axl. Throw in the subject becoming irrelevant and people think it HAS to be about Axl. Might be time to lay off the pipe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoking guns Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 The album is getting better and better! I stopped texting and driving cause while driving I am rocking the fuck out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So we've gotten to the point of--Poor Myles, guy can't even write lyrics with his usual themes w/o some of the GNR fan base wanting to apply it to Axl.Poor Axl, any song about the subject being out of control and/or causing his own downfall is assumed to be about Axl. Throw in the subject becoming irrelevant and people think it HAS to be about Axl. Might be time to lay off the pipe... So how about everyone who assumes Sorry is about Slash? Should they lay off the pipe? I mean, Axl clearly said it isn't about anyone in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) So we've gotten to the point of--Poor Myles, guy can't even write lyrics with his usual themes w/o some of the GNR fan base wanting to apply it to Axl.Poor Axl, any song about the subject being out of control and/or causing his own downfall is assumed to be about Axl. Throw in the subject becoming irrelevant and people think it HAS to be about Axl. Might be time to lay off the pipe... So how about everyone who assumes Sorry is about Slash? Should they lay off the pipe? I mean, Axl clearly said it isn't about anyone in particular.But there's a big difference. Axl is always writing about ex-bandmates, ex-girlfriends, etc. CD was his My December album. There is a track record there unlike with Myles.Crucify The Dead from Ozzy clearly about Axl. And Sorry clearly about Slash with its "Shut up and sing" reference and other lines obviously about Slash.Axl writing lyrics about Slash far more plausible and even understandable than Myles writing and singing about Axl. The dots don't connect, IMO.If Myles did write those lyrics about Axl, would be a huge bitch move and don't see that from him. You do? Edited October 1, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoking guns Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Dirty Girl is a Snakepit II song if I ever head one. Iris of the Storm isn't great either. Those are the two worst on the album. I like everything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 So we've gotten to the point of--Poor Myles, guy can't even write lyrics with his usual themes w/o some of the GNR fan base wanting to apply it to Axl.Poor Axl, any song about the subject being out of control and/or causing his own downfall is assumed to be about Axl. Throw in the subject becoming irrelevant and people think it HAS to be about Axl. Might be time to lay off the pipe... So how about everyone who assumes Sorry is about Slash? Should they lay off the pipe? I mean, Axl clearly said it isn't about anyone in particular. But there's a big difference. Axl is always writing about ex-bandmates, ex-girlfriends, etc. CD was his My December album. There is a track record there unlike with Myles.Crucify The Dead from Ozzy clearly about Axl. And Sorry clearly about Slash with its "Shut up and sing" reference and other lines obviously about Slash.Axl writing lyrics about Slash far more plausible and even understandable than Myles writing and singing about Axl. The dots don't connect, IMO.If Myles did write those lyrics about Axl, would be a huge bitch move and don't see that from him. You do?See, here's the thing. I'm not trying to stick up for Axl or anything. It's just clear as day that at the very least, CTD, Nothing to Say and Too Far Gone are about Axl."Still you're much further away, singing our songs of yesterday, while so much still stands in the way"That line is as blatant as "a loaded gun jammed by a rose".Too Far Gone describes Axl to a t. I'm not some delusional Axl fan who thinks Slash is being mean or lying. I'm all for Slash taking it to Axl (and vice versa, they're both cunts) but it's pretty annoying seeing him get his shots in while appearing to take the high road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anguyen92 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) "Still you're much further away, singing our songs of yesterday, while so much still stands in the way"That could mean anything. Didn't M. Shadows wrote those lyrics? His involvement with anything GNR-related is just nothing more but just being influenced by the band, just like Myles. He just heard some riffs, wrote some lyrics that's somewhat goes with the style of his band, Avenged Sevenfold, and just let it roll. I don't see it as a message to anyone specific or any other songs released by Slash with the exception of Crucify the Dead which I will get to. That said, Ozzy's lyrics is definitely was about something GNR-related. "We were like brothers with the world in our hands. You always have too much to say. Someday you look back and you wonder why. You let it all slip away, yeah". Those lyrics' meaning looks really really clearer and blatant than what Shadows and Myles wrote in their songs with Slash. Edited October 1, 2014 by Anguyen92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Slash is on a talk show in Australia tonight look what else they are talking about lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Does anybody know the sales of the second week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) So we've gotten to the point of--Poor Myles, guy can't even write lyrics with his usual themes w/o some of the GNR fan base wanting to apply it to Axl.Poor Axl, any song about the subject being out of control and/or causing his own downfall is assumed to be about Axl. Throw in the subject becoming irrelevant and people think it HAS to be about Axl. Might be time to lay off the pipe... So how about everyone who assumes Sorry is about Slash? Should they lay off the pipe? I mean, Axl clearly said it isn't about anyone in particular. But there's a big difference. Axl is always writing about ex-bandmates, ex-girlfriends, etc. CD was his My December album. There is a track record there unlike with Myles.Crucify The Dead from Ozzy clearly about Axl. And Sorry clearly about Slash with its "Shut up and sing" reference and other lines obviously about Slash.Axl writing lyrics about Slash far more plausible and even understandable than Myles writing and singing about Axl. The dots don't connect, IMO.If Myles did write those lyrics about Axl, would be a huge bitch move and don't see that from him. You do?See, here's the thing. I'm not trying to stick up for Axl or anything. It's just clear as day that at the very least, CTD, Nothing to Say and Too Far Gone are about Axl."Still you're much further away, singing our songs of yesterday, while so much still stands in the way"That line is as blatant as "a loaded gun jammed by a rose".Too Far Gone describes Axl to a t. I'm not some delusional Axl fan who thinks Slash is being mean or lying. I'm all for Slash taking it to Axl (and vice versa, they're both cunts) but it's pretty annoying seeing him get his shots in while appearing to take the high road.I know, we're just shooting the shit on this stuff for fun. Totally meaningless.Had never really bothered listening to the lyrics of Nothing to Say until now, but I do agree with Anguyen that the specific line you quote sounds like typical M. Shadows tripe. Reading the rest of the song, doesn't seem to apply to GNR at all. Honestly, I have no idea what he's getting at. Because he's always seemed like such a cool cat, I'll give Myles the benefit of the doubt until he does something else douchey that makes me wonder. Singing "there's nothing left to prove, you're too far gone" about Axl would be far more personal and harsh than anything in Crucify and Myles doesn't even have a place in this... Edited October 1, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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