Star Wars-The Force Awakens Thread (Contains Spoilers)

[luciusfunk]

• The film is dystopian and darker than Empire. Some 30-40 years have passed since Return of the Jedi, and the Empire and New Republic have been locked in a war of attrition. Everyone is languishing and sick of the war. The script, which is described as "too good for JJ Abrams", begins in space, above a desert planet -- presumably Tatooine.

• The opening crawl details the ongoing turmoil in the galaxy. How the fall of the Emperor left a void of power, and how the heroes of Endor went into seclusion or kept fighting.

• Despite the ongoing war, "spoiler man" describes the current state being similar to the European theater of 1944, with the Empire being Germany and the Republic being the Allies. The Republic has taken the upper hand.

• John Boyega and Daisy Ridley are the two leads.

• Boyega is a force-sensitive Stormtrooper under command of Gwendoline Christie's character. He defects from the Empire over the course of the movie, ending up stranded on Tatooine during the first act. Having defied orders, Boyega is hunted as a deserter.

TIE fighter wreckage; possibly Boyega's: http://i.imgur.com/bhTMPuT.jpg

• Gwendoline Christie's character is an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors are a group of lightsaber wielding individuals that may or may not be force sensitive and head up the Imperial Remnant. Inquisitors arent Sith, but they are not Jedi either; they are dogs, hounds used to track down force sensitives, and they are implied to have assisted Vader's cleansing.

Christie's Inquisitor: http://i.imgur.com/JhrbuBy.jpg

Inquisitor's lightsaber: http://i.imgur.com/cKiSO9B.jpg

• Daisy plays Kira, a character living on Tatooine with Max Von Sydow's character. Kira is a dusty survivalist tomboy. Sydow is a broken man from the prequel area that has become mostly cyborg. He is not force sensitive, but for some reason collects artifacts that have been at critical points during the previous films. Daisy shares his fascination with history, and is revealed in Act II to be the daughter of Han and Leia. As someone with force sensitivity, she resents the fact that Luke went into exile before he could train her, and she hopes that the search for these force-sensitive artifacts could lead her to him. She keeps her identity secret to keep trouble away.

Sydow's character examining Vader's helmet: http://i.imgur.com/hjVHT65.jpg

Sydow's character with Kira: http://i.imgur.com/pInbshX.jpg

• Sydow is a sort of mentor to Kira, and apparently his true identity is an Act III revelation that will surprise a lot of people. The contention is that he is an existing character from the prequel films, and the revelation of his identity will shock viewers.

• Sydow's character is "not overtly" a villain.

• Sydow's "hideout" is a downed AT-AT. Relics of the war are everywhere in the film; there is a real feeling that the entire galaxy is sick of the deadlock.

AT-AT: http://i.imgur.com/cm8eBZS.jpg; http://i.imgur.com/FIxykNK.jpg; http://i.imgur.com/LqlrmBZ.jpg

• The ball droid from the trailer belongs to Kira.

• Boyega on the desert planet (again, presumably Tatooine) meets up with Daisy and Sydow. At the end of the first act, Han Solo and Chewbacca take them all off planet in the Millennium Falcon. Shortly afterward, we learn that "Kira" is Han and Leia's daughter. She keeps her identity secret to avoid unwanted trouble.

• Kira's revelation dumbfounds Boyega and "other people."

• Chewbacca's light debt extends to Han's whole family, and he has a robotic arm.

Chewbacca: http://i.imgur.com/7TGADrf.jpg

• Han takes a liking to Boyega. Throughout the film he is in love with Boyega's decision to defy orders and ruin his career in the Imperial military. Han vouches for Boyega, having gone through something similar.

• At some point, Han says the familiar "Hey, it's me." Someone of course says the familiar "I have a bad feeling about this."

• Lando's sullustan co-pilot from Return of the Jedi makes an appearance.

• Lando is in the script, and is apparently famous.

• Luke Skywalker has secluded himself from the galaxy, training a handful of students since his exile. However, he fears for his future; as he comes closer to Yoda levels of power, he becomes more and more secluded. There are no Jedi in the open, but rumors persist that Luke has trained a few since Endor.

• Boyega and Daisy become Luke's new apprentices.

• Luke exiled himself because of the ongoing war. With the galaxy in chaos, he had to ensure his safety so that a new generation could be trained. At least, that's what he says; the fact that he continues to exclude himself despite his great power indicates ulterior motive.

• His lightsaber is still green.

• Lupita Nyong'o is Luke's current apprentice.

• Luke speaks to Yoda's force ghost in the film.

• Lupita Nyong'o is Boyega's eventual love interest.

• Only Han and Leia know where Luke is, a fact we learn onboard a Mon Cal cruiser in the film's second act.

• Luke appears in Act II ala Obi Wan dropping the hood in A New Hope. He survives the movie.

• Luke has a reveal in the film which, apparently, is stunning.

• Luke has grown to dislike using his lightsaber, but apparently draws it late in the movie and showcases his abilities against an Inquisitor.

• Leia is the leader of the Republic. R2D2 and C3P0 are with her during the film.

• R2 and C3P0 are the only comic relief characters in the film.

• Carrie Fischer's real life daughter plays Leia in a flashback sequence. Darth Vader appears in this flashback as well, which apparently takes place on Endor.

• The Republic is building a super weapon on a Scandanavian-esque cold forsaken forest world. Its ultimate purpose is unknown.

• Yavin is in the film, presumably as the Republic's base of operations.

Presumably Yavin: http://i.imgur.com/N4iJjMm.jpg; http://i.imgur.com/dBHibXF.jpg; http://i.imgur.com/blKc7tO.jpg; http://i.imgur.com/tN2vpt3.jpg

• The Han Solo archetype is split between Oscar Isaac and Domhnall Gleeson.

• Isaac is an ace pilot with the last name "Darklighter" who's been fighting the Imperial forces for years now. He's a bit of a hot shot.

• He inherits the Milennium Falcon and is implied to be Kira's eventual love interest.

• Domhnall Gleeson plays a scoundrel of sorts.

• John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac, Domhnall Gleeson, Lupita Nyong'o, Chewbacca, and the droids (presumably Sydow's character and Kira's ball droid) are the new "big 6".

• Adam Driver's character is an ambitious, force-sensitive pilot who falls to the dark side.

• He is described as having a transformation that "only begins" in Episode VII.

• He builds his own lightsaber (the one we see in the trailer). It's referred to as a "junk" lightsaber, which is why it looks different from that which we are familiar with.

• The lightsaber battles are written by Kasdan to be minimalistic and powerful.

• Driver wears a mask because half of his face is cyborg.

• He goes looking for Andy Serkis' character on the aforementioned Scandanavian-esque forest world.

Adam Driver's character: http://imageserver.moviepilot.com/sithinquisitor-star-wars-episode-7-grave-robber-s-lightsaber-is-lethal-and-pointy-star-wars-episode-7-the-new-villain-is-darth-revan.jpeg?width=960&height=960

• Andy Serkis is some kind of alien Sith exempt from the Rule of Two. He is implied to have existed for a long time, be very powerful, and is the speaker in the teaser.

• Serkis is implied to have trained or used Palpatine for some obscure purpose.

• Adam Driver recieves or builds a new lightsaber after meeting with Serkis.

• The Sith are not aligned with the Empire.

• Serkis' goals differ from Palpatine's.

• Serkis does not play Darth Plagueis.

• 99.9% of the EU is disregarded.

George Lucas can go to hell. THIS is what Star Wars should be. Fuck, I hope every goddamn word of this is true.

Angry much? Without George Lucas, this film wouldn't even be getting made.

[Dan H.]

Those spoilers sound very VERY promising

[bran]

jeez i thought us lord of the rings fans were bad

as for the movie, i never seen any of the star wars movies in their entirety but this trailer looks pretty cool so i might have to go through them one of these days.

[Facekicker]

Take it with a pinch of salt....some of those details don't add up with the concept art that was leaked and proven to be legit by the trailer.

[rocknroll41]

A lot of people are thinking that Sydow's character might actually be Boba Fett! It makes sense when you think about it...

-Chronologically, he began his life/ career in the prequel era

-He's sorta bad but not completely evil since he's just a bounty hunter

-His father was killed by a Jedi and he himself worked for Vader, which would explain the obsession for looking for historic Jedi artifacts like Vader's mask

-We last saw him on Tattooine

-When we last we saw him he was being digested by a sarlaac which would explain the need for cybernetic parts

-A reveal of him being Boba Fett would be shocking to audiences, as the rumors describe

-George recently said that he considers Boba Fett to still be alive in the new canon

Edited December 2, 2014 by rocknroll41

[luciusfunk]

A lot of people are thinking that Sydow's character might actually be Boba Fett! It makes sense when you think about it...

-Chronologically, he began his life/ career in the prequel era

-He's sorta bad but not completely evil since he's just a bounty hunter

-His father was killed by a Jedi and he himself worked for Vader, which would explain the obsession for looking for historic Jedi artifacts like Vader's mask

-We last saw him on Tattooine

-When we last we saw him he was being digested by a sarlaac which would explain the need for cybernetic parts

-A reveal of him being Boba Fett would be shocking to audiences, as the rumors describe

-George recently said that he considers Boba Fett to still be alive in the new canon

I saw that, too. A lot of people are also saying Max Von Sydow doesn't fit the ethnicity of that character, though. I think it'd be badass if that spoiler was correct.

[DieselDaisy]

It's Jar Jar. You have heard it here first. Meesa goin home

[rocknroll41]

A lot of people are thinking that Sydow's character might actually be Boba Fett! It makes sense when you think about it...

-Chronologically, he began his life/ career in the prequel era

-He's sorta bad but not completely evil since he's just a bounty hunter

-His father was killed by a Jedi and he himself worked for Vader, which would explain the obsession for looking for historic Jedi artifacts like Vader's mask

-We last saw him on Tattooine

-When we last we saw him he was being digested by a sarlaac which would explain the need for cybernetic parts

-A reveal of him being Boba Fett would be shocking to audiences, as the rumors describe

-George recently said that he considers Boba Fett to still be alive in the new canon

I saw that, too. A lot of people are also saying Max Von Sydow doesn't fit the ethnicity of that character, though. I think it'd be badass if that spoiler was correct.

true, but when you think about it, his face probably got all fucked up from the sarlaac and he probably has to where a full facial mask now with a robotic voice a la Vader.

others have also theorized that maybe the acid from the sarlaac can "bleach" your skin. the white hair can simply be excused as aging, since Boba would be around Sydow's age anyway at the time this film takes place

Edited December 2, 2014 by rocknroll41

[luciusfunk]

A lot of people are thinking that Sydow's character might actually be Boba Fett! It makes sense when you think about it...

-Chronologically, he began his life/ career in the prequel era

-He's sorta bad but not completely evil since he's just a bounty hunter

-His father was killed by a Jedi and he himself worked for Vader, which would explain the obsession for looking for historic Jedi artifacts like Vader's mask

-We last saw him on Tattooine

-When we last we saw him he was being digested by a sarlaac which would explain the need for cybernetic parts

-A reveal of him being Boba Fett would be shocking to audiences, as the rumors describe

-George recently said that he considers Boba Fett to still be alive in the new canon

I saw that, too. A lot of people are also saying Max Von Sydow doesn't fit the ethnicity of that character, though. I think it'd be badass if that spoiler was correct.

true, but when you think about it, his face probably got all fucked up from the sarlaac and he probably has to where a full facial mask now with a robotic voice a la Vader.

others have also theorized that maybe the acid from the sarlaac can "bleach" your skin. the white hair can simply be excused as aging, since Boba would be around Sydow's age anyway at the time this film takes place

You reading reddit? That's the exact same thing I read.

[rocknroll41]

A lot of people are thinking that Sydow's character might actually be Boba Fett! It makes sense when you think about it...

-Chronologically, he began his life/ career in the prequel era

-He's sorta bad but not completely evil since he's just a bounty hunter

-His father was killed by a Jedi and he himself worked for Vader, which would explain the obsession for looking for historic Jedi artifacts like Vader's mask

-We last saw him on Tattooine

-When we last we saw him he was being digested by a sarlaac which would explain the need for cybernetic parts

-A reveal of him being Boba Fett would be shocking to audiences, as the rumors describe

-George recently said that he considers Boba Fett to still be alive in the new canon

I saw that, too. A lot of people are also saying Max Von Sydow doesn't fit the ethnicity of that character, though. I think it'd be badass if that spoiler was correct.

true, but when you think about it, his face probably got all fucked up from the sarlaac and he probably has to where a full facial mask now with a robotic voice a la Vader.

others have also theorized that maybe the acid from the sarlaac can "bleach" your skin. the white hair can simply be excused as aging, since Boba would be around Sydow's age anyway at the time this film takes place

You reading reddit? That's the exact same thing I read.

i dont usually read reddit but yeah that's where im getting all this from

[tentonneskeleton]

Oh man, I read all those spoilers and now I'm kind of regretting it. Sounds like it's gonna be a better movie than I had originally anticipated.

Don't know what I'm gonna do to hold myself over till it comes out, though. A friend of mine is trying to convince me to read some of the novels.

[Bono]

[ManetsBR]

I'm really happy to know that the story sounds promising! Ain't reading shit, though!

[ZoSoRose]

As long as luke isnt the fucking bad guy im good

[OmarBradley]

I read about half of the spoiler, didn't want to give too much away. I don't think it sounds amazing, but I don't think it sounds bad either. I'm not sure what all of the hype is about.

[rocknroll41]

I read about half of the spoiler, didn't want to give too much away. I don't think it sounds amazing, but I don't think it sounds bad either. I'm not sure what all of the hype is about.

maybe most people think the good stuff is in the half you didn't read lol

[MrPoe]

Interesting stuff, reading the spoilers. I may actually go see it. So glad the EU is gone. I got into ridiculous arguments with fellow SW geeks over it; pieces of my life I'll never get back!

[ZoSoRose]

Fuck, I think this story is sounding amazing so far. It is a little darker than what I would have wanted initially, but it sounds great and a natural progression.

I really want to go dark, but its so hard to do. This batch of rumors got me psyched

[nickzark]

i want luke to be the bad guy in the movie

[rocknroll41]

It's getting more and more likely that the supposed "leaked" plot on 4chan is nothing more than a fake. The person who dropped all those so-called "spoilers" there the other day came back on to say more things about the film and started contradicting himself a whole bunch to the point where it was almost repulsive to read. He also kept taunting a lot of the other users on the site and it started to seem more and more apparent that he's just some typical low-life internet cupcake and not a legit insider.

It's a shame, though. I was really excited about that plot!

[luciusfunk]

i want luke to be the bad guy in the movie

Lucas has talked about that in the past.

[NachoLZ]

i want luke to be the bad guy in the movie

Lucas has talked about that in the past.

Yeah, in fact, when the EU was canon, Luke joins the Dark Side for some time

Edited December 3, 2014 by NachoLZ

[luciusfunk]

The EU was never officially canon.

[Bono]

Nothing should be canon except the movies. I'd even be ok with Disney scraping the prequels. this whole canon garbage is stupid. the movies should NEVER have to rely on or fall in line with the multitude of books and cartoons out there. People can have those and enjoy it but the movies in my opinion should be completely free of that stuff. If they want to use some of it fine but it should never be tied to it.

This coming from a guy who has read a LOT of the expanded universe and enjoyed it.

[luciusfunk]

The movies and The Clone Wars are all that's canon.