bacardimayne Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 "The force is just a bunch of bugs that live on your skin and give you force powers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) It is Lucas once again undermining the strength of his own earlier, better work and another example of how he completely lost the plot as a filmmaker and storyteller. One of the greatest elements of any story, fantasy or otherwise, is a sense of mystery. The unknown. The Force is exactly that. It also has strong religious overtones. And much like religion or anything supernatural, it tends to get destroyed and lose its awe when a scientific/logical explanation is put forward to explain it. Fucking boneheaded move by Lucas that suggests he doesn't even understand how or why the original trilogy became so popular. For all his talk about the inspirations behind his work such as Joseph Campbells The Hero With A Thousand Faces he pretty much just demonstrated that he is full of shit and creatively bankrupt when left to his own devices. In fact I read recently that some early screenplays and treatments for A New Hope surfaced not so long ago and show what an utter shambles the whole thing was until some other screenwriters and editors became involved. Apparently all the major flaws of the prequels are evident in the early versions of A New Hope and it took other more skilled writers to save the whole thing from disaster. Of course Lucas got all the credit for this and these other guys were airbrushed from history. EDIT: That new movie of his is also, predictably, pure shit. Edited February 11, 2015 by Facekicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 It is also a good example of Lucas' penchant for word play as well as taking extent concepts and twisting them into Star Wars silliness. Here, he is obviously using mitochondria, the cellular structures which produce energy. In fact he has probably looked at his high school science book, at a diagram of a cell, and thought, ''what if there were some intracellular organisms in there which can produce The Force?''. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 He probably thought he was making some profound statement regarding the reconciliation of the scientific and the religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) Episode I-III: Jedi order is thriving, Jedi are one of the most powerful forces in the galaxy Episode IV, 19 years later: Jedi are a myth. The force is based on a "hokey religion", despite the Midichlorian science backing it up, lightsabers are considered "ancient" Seemed to happen kinda fast no? Edited February 12, 2015 by bacardimayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The problem also is it affects the original trilogy and the new films. You know what they are going to do with midichlorians in these new films, don't you? Ignore it, ignore it as no writer exists with genius enough to tackle the concept and produce something good and tangible from it. Yet, when anybody speaks about The Force, ''the force is strong with this one'', it is going to be lingering there in the background like a bad spell. ''Do a midichlorian count'' people will (ironically) say! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 (edited) You know it's bad when a CGI cartoon does a better job characterizing the main character of the fucking story (according to Lucas) and explaining his fall to the dark side than the 3 blockbuster movies centered around him do. Edited February 12, 2015 by bacardimayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I'm on Season 5 of The Clone Wars right nowI always dismissed it, but it is actually really, really good. Anakin is pretty cool on it, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Episode I-III: Jedi order is thriving, Jedi are one of the most powerful forces in the galaxyEpisode IV, 19 years later: Jedi are a myth. The force is based on a "hokey religion", despite the Midichlorian science backing it up, lightsabers are considered "ancient"Seemed to happen kinda fast no?Considering how quickly the Jedi were killed with Order 66, I can kinda see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Yeah, but it's only been 19 years. People must still remember the age of the Jedi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Episode I-III: Jedi order is thriving, Jedi are one of the most powerful forces in the galaxyEpisode IV, 19 years later: Jedi are a myth. The force is based on a "hokey religion", despite the Midichlorian science backing it up, lightsabers are considered "ancient"Seemed to happen kinda fast no? Considering how quickly the Jedi were killed with Order 66, I can kinda see it.9:11 was 14 years ago this year. Let that sink in for a moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Considering how quickly 9/11 went down, I can kinda see everyone forgetting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Considering how quickly 9/11 went down, I can kinda see everyone forgetting it.Well not quite yet but definitely in about 5 years eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Hokey religions and ancient jet fuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Episode I-III: Jedi order is thriving, Jedi are one of the most powerful forces in the galaxyEpisode IV, 19 years later: Jedi are a myth. The force is based on a "hokey religion", despite the Midichlorian science backing it up, lightsabers are considered "ancient"Seemed to happen kinda fast no? Considering how quickly the Jedi were killed with Order 66, I can kinda see it.9:11 was 14 years ago this year. Let that sink in for a moment.Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite4illusions Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 With the recent (yet unconfirmed) reports that JJ wants to expedite the release of Episode 7, could we honestly be looking at only a four to six month wait for this puppy?Nothing would tickle me more than getting my Christmas present in July, but is it even possible? Don't they need that six months for everything from VFX to editing and music, not to mention, the saturation of advertisement? It just doesn't seem like something they could swing, but I hope to hell I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 With the recent (yet unconfirmed) reports that JJ wants to expedite the release of Episode 7, could we honestly be looking at only a four to six month wait for this puppy?Nothing would tickle me more than getting my Christmas present in July, but is it even possible? Don't they need that six months for everything from VFX to editing and music, not to mention, the saturation of advertisement? It just doesn't seem like something they could swing, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.This is the first I'm hearing about Abrams wanting to expedite the release. On a slightly unrelated note - shouldn't we be getting some sort of news on the first spin-off soon? We know it's coming out next year, and that's literally all we have so far. Worst case scenario it comes out December 2016, which would put us on the same time table that we were with VII this time last year. You think back to last February - we had a concrete release date (Assuming they don't bump up the release), a director in place as well as other members of the production team, some very solid casting rumors of which several were true, anything else? I mean, we already know Rian Johnson will be directing VIII which won't be out for nearly 3 years, and we still know nothing about next year's film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPoe Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, but it's only been 19 years. People must still remember the age of the Jedi?Consider how ancient dial-up internet, brick sized wireless (not cellular) phones, or video tapes are to the common 19 year old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 Yeah, but it's only been 19 years. People must still remember the age of the Jedi?Consider how ancient dial-up internet, brick sized wireless (not cellular) phones, or video tapes are to the common 19 year old.As opposed to all conquering forces for good in the universe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 With the recent (yet unconfirmed) reports that JJ wants to expedite the release of Episode 7, could we honestly be looking at only a four to six month wait for this puppy?Nothing would tickle me more than getting my Christmas present in July, but is it even possible? Don't they need that six months for everything from VFX to editing and music, not to mention, the saturation of advertisement? It just doesn't seem like something they could swing, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.This is the first I'm hearing about Abrams wanting to expedite the release. On a slightly unrelated note - shouldn't we be getting some sort of news on the first spin-off soon? We know it's coming out next year, and that's literally all we have so far. Worst case scenario it comes out December 2016, which would put us on the same time table that we were with VII this time last year. You think back to last February - we had a concrete release date (Assuming they don't bump up the release), a director in place as well as other members of the production team, some very solid casting rumors of which several were true, anything else? I mean, we already know Rian Johnson will be directing VIII which won't be out for nearly 3 years, and we still know nothing about next year's film We know that Gareth Edwards is directing it and that Gary Whitta was writing it until some Twilight writer named Chris took over the script duties. We know that the movie will be filmed at Pinewood this summer and the official release date is December 2016 (can't remember which day exactly but I think it's the 16th). We also know Felicity Jones is the female lead of the film.Those are all confirmed facts! Aside from that stuff it's also being heavily reported that Aaron Paul will be the male lead and that the film will be about bounty hunters. Again, those two bits are heavily reported but not confirmed. Everything else I mentioned earlier is confirmed, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 With the recent (yet unconfirmed) reports that JJ wants to expedite the release of Episode 7, could we honestly be looking at only a four to six month wait for this puppy?Nothing would tickle me more than getting my Christmas present in July, but is it even possible? Don't they need that six months for everything from VFX to editing and music, not to mention, the saturation of advertisement? It just doesn't seem like something they could swing, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.This is the first I'm hearing about Abrams wanting to expedite the release. On a slightly unrelated note - shouldn't we be getting some sort of news on the first spin-off soon? We know it's coming out next year, and that's literally all we have so far. Worst case scenario it comes out December 2016, which would put us on the same time table that we were with VII this time last year. You think back to last February - we had a concrete release date (Assuming they don't bump up the release), a director in place as well as other members of the production team, some very solid casting rumors of which several were true, anything else? I mean, we already know Rian Johnson will be directing VIII which won't be out for nearly 3 years, and we still know nothing about next year's film We know that Gareth Edwards is directing it and that Gary Whitta was writing it until some Twilight writer named Chris took over the script duties. We know that the movie will be filmed at Pinewood this summer and the official release date is December 2016 (can't remember which day exactly but I think it's the 16th). We also know Felicity Jones is the female lead of the film.Those are all confirmed facts! Aside from that stuff it's also being heavily reported that Aaron Paul will be the male lead and that the film will be about bounty hunters. Again, those two bits are heavily reported but not confirmed. Everything else I mentioned earlier is confirmed, tho.Huh, guess I missed out on a lot - that's the first time I've heard any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 New rumor dump. Could be all 100% legit, some legit, or completely fake. Either way, wow... sounds really cool but REALLY depressinghttp://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/star-wars-force-awakens-psa-rumor-dump-take-leave/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 With the recent (yet unconfirmed) reports that JJ wants to expedite the release of Episode 7, could we honestly be looking at only a four to six month wait for this puppy?Nothing would tickle me more than getting my Christmas present in July, but is it even possible? Don't they need that six months for everything from VFX to editing and music, not to mention, the saturation of advertisement? It just doesn't seem like something they could swing, but I hope to hell I'm wrong.This is the first I'm hearing about Abrams wanting to expedite the release. On a slightly unrelated note - shouldn't we be getting some sort of news on the first spin-off soon? We know it's coming out next year, and that's literally all we have so far. Worst case scenario it comes out December 2016, which would put us on the same time table that we were with VII this time last year. You think back to last February - we had a concrete release date (Assuming they don't bump up the release), a director in place as well as other members of the production team, some very solid casting rumors of which several were true, anything else? I mean, we already know Rian Johnson will be directing VIII which won't be out for nearly 3 years, and we still know nothing about next year's film We know that Gareth Edwards is directing it and that Gary Whitta was writing it until some Twilight writer named Chris took over the script duties. We know that the movie will be filmed at Pinewood this summer and the official release date is December 2016 (can't remember which day exactly but I think it's the 16th). We also know Felicity Jones is the female lead of the film.Those are all confirmed facts! Aside from that stuff it's also being heavily reported that Aaron Paul will be the male lead and that the film will be about bounty hunters. Again, those two bits are heavily reported but not confirmed. Everything else I mentioned earlier is confirmed, tho. Huh, guess I missed out on a lot - that's the first time I've heard any of that.Which is why I am quite worried about these spin-offs. I have a feeling they won't be all that successful cause their presence seems to be getting eclipsed by the sequel trilogy, particularly Force Awakens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 New rumor dump. Could be all 100% legit, some legit, or completely fake. Either way, wow... sounds really cool but REALLY depressinghttp://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/star-wars-force-awakens-psa-rumor-dump-take-leave/Seems to match up with all the leaks so far plus some additional info. I like what I'm hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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