GNRfanMILO Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Crazyman said: I hate to keep making posts here but what's the timer for? Another poorly designed piece of shit...I mean merch? (Serious question though, what is the timer for?) What timer? Oh... I saw it now. I guess that's the time the t-shirt will be for sale. Edited May 14, 2020 by GNRfanMILO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Chap on facebook sums it up succinctly, Haha Hah saw him. This guy somes it up well too. Sounds like someone who could be a member here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Swampfox Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 Coming out against Trump isn't brave. Not when all of Hollywood and the media will back you up and applaud. It's harder today to come out as a Trump supporter than to come out of the closet. Axl is a big fat pussy. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, registra said: Haven't seen myself, but what sort of backlash? People criticizing the anti-trump messages or people criticizing the general tastelessness? The majority of the comments on fb are along the lines of wtf is this/what does it mean/what "45" stands for. The critical comments are mostly either about the shirt being in bad taste or generally about the band/TB releasing only merch etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: The majority of the comments on fb are along the lines of wtf is this/what does it mean/what "45" stands for. The critical comments are mostly either about the shirt being in bad taste or generally about the band/TB releasing only merch etc. I didn’t get the 45 reference. I’m assuming it’s because of that video. I think Trump is hilarious but the shirt is cool. And nobody would get the reference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: I didn’t get the 45 reference. I’m assuming it’s because of that video. I think Trump is hilarious but the shirt is cool. And nobody would get the reference at all. About 45 reference, someone linked in GNR facebook "The Urbane dictionary", there is the reference about Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: I didn’t get the 45 reference. I’m assuming it’s because of that video. I think Trump is hilarious but the shirt is cool. And nobody would get the reference at all. Yeah, the 45 reference is hard to get unless one is familiar with US politics (the media that have reported it so far got it). I didn't know there was an entry on urban dictionary: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=COVID-45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 hours ago, El Guapo said: Team Brazil is the worst, sure. But Axl, Slash and Duff are responsible in the end. The let all of this happen because of greed, lazyness, ignorance and/ or because they don't care. Duff also posted it to his Instagram stories. And I think I saw an Instagram ad for it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 I think it was Axl idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 It appears that this band is open to anything but releasing music, interacting with fans or establishing any semblance of good will.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ratam said: I think it was Axl idea. It’s definitely his signature perverse sense of humor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Spuffy78 said: Now we've done it. Tour for another ten years and no new album. Maybe the next tour will be called COVID-45 World Tour. If it get Axl spitting fire and dedicating Double Talking Jive to Trump, I am in! In all seriousness, I hate trump as much as the next person who pays attention, but this is in poor taste in my book. There are classier and more effective ways to help others out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 1 minute ago, The Holographic Universe said: It’s definitely his signature perverse sense of humor. Yes, i have this feeling too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Mostly positive comments in the comment section so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, SAU3R said: Mostly positive comments in the comment section so far Rolling Stone is liberal/socialist propaganda. No surprise there. Edited May 14, 2020 by The Real McCoy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricA Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 For the first time i'm somewhat embrassed to be a fan of this band. I hope they asked Paul if it's ok to use his song for a shitty shirt, if not, he should file a lawsuit. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 A complete sham of a band, total embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Simply disgusting shirt/message. This band can t be taken serious any more. So they decided to remove "One in a million" cause they are politically correct now and then release a covid shirt with "Live and Let die" while Corona killed worldwide more people than a war? They could have put "Patience" or "Don t cry" on it if charity was their intention. IF Pathetic. Fernando is a total loser but the other ones are on the same level if no one of the band stands up against this bullshit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, EricA said: For the first time i'm somewhat embrassed to be a fan of this band. I hope they asked Paul if it's ok to use his song for a shitty shirt, if not, he should file a lawsuit. I hope he does sue them. I am embarrassed too to be a fan. Disgusting what they have become 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KeyserSoze Posted May 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 14, 2020 So, here's where I stand with this after seeing this shirt and then reading the comments/backlash... Firstly, I came across this glorious piece of merch on social media and my head literally blew up like the little emoji guy and I said 'no fucking way' out loud. My legit first thought. To put everything in perspective, It's been a full WEEK since the LaLD/Trump/Axl Twitter/Munckin fiascos. In that week, some of Guns N' Roses contemporaries have done way more than GNR have. MYGNR's favorite comparison, Metallica, have announced a 'month of giving' and have put not just 1 item, but a whole series of items on its website for sale to benefit crew members who may have been effected by COVID. Not only did they announce this, but Lars gave an interview about it as well. Oh yes, who can forget Metallica Monday as well? Weren't we promised 'live videos coming soon' almost a week ago? Metallica has been a band that has been almost inactive since last year when James had to go to rehab again, and yet they have STILL found ways to engage and stay relevant in a time that is proving to be very hard to do so and has seen many artists have to try and reinvent themselves. My personal favorite comparison at the moment is Pearl Jam. For reference, they had an album drop March 26th, directly at the onset of this crazy pandemic. They had their whole tour ruined as well as months of marketing prowess that went up in flames as soon as everyone was confined to their homes. Since then, the band who is well known for their merch, has decided to cut back on the merch and focus more on trying to bring everyone together. While they did release special prints by poster artists late last week, for mothers day instead of a shirt, they announced a partnership with Every Mother Counts. Since Axls twitter fiasco, Pearl Jam have also offered 2 live videos (one from a previous DVD, and one that we have never seen in HD before) on their facebook page. In my opinion, thats enough for the casual viewer. Quick-hits to keep you engaged and keep the Pearl Jam name in your mouth without being stuffed with it. This week they will release their 3rd music video for their new album. Their 3rd album since Axl last released a piece of music. But I digress. It seems like the main positive that people have with this shirt is that they see it as the band 'sticking it to the man' and in some way its related to the reason we love the band and why we were attracted to an outspoken figure like Axl and Slash in the first place. I say, why wasn't the irony of the whole situation enough? Axl seemed to benefit GREATLY from that little spat last week. For the first time in a long time, most people were on his side. The people that were against him were Trump supporters doing the classic "TRUMP IS THE GREATEST, YOU KNOW NOTHING!" tap dance. That was enough for most people to be like "yes, this is the Axl I grew up knowing and loving" I don't think many of us need a weirdly worded 'inside joke' type of shirt to explain to the world how GNR gives not one single fuck. Hell, I'd like to see how well the streams for Appetite and Chinese did late last week if there is a way to see that. Appetite was trending for a little while, but Chinese Democracy literally trended for as long as Axl did with many people asking "why the hell is chinese democracy trending?" and philosopher GNR twitter heads saying "GUNS N ROSES! LOOK IT UP!" and I saw many a person say they actually did. Hell, I even put it on and listened to it all the way through for the first time in a long time. That would have been a perfect time for GNR's management to promote Chinese Democracy or even Appetite yet again. A simple "Did someone say Chinese Democracy is trending?" with a link to the album when they woke up would have been PERFECT marketing in that scenario. Get the people talking about the current event, instead of it going under the radar. Instead, we have management that goes "theres got to be a way to capitalize on this situation and put more of these 'fans' money in OUR pockets" so they have a 3 hour meeting (most likely on Zoom) and someone literally thought this was the best thing they could come up with. Not only is it the best thing they could come up with, it's a fucking week late. Holy shit, does anyone even remember or CARE what Axl did on twitter last week? Yeah, it WAS 'major' news..... last week. But now? It all seems to be a game of how can the GNR entity and the people making a certain percentage from that GNR entity be set for life. Childs books. Toy Trucks. Laundry hampers. Shirts with weird inside twitter war jokes on them. Promises that have been wasted or manipulated to think we are getting legit content, only to be made a fool of. You know how easy it is to make a Youtube playlist and name it? I could have done that in less time it took me to write this... And yet people still think Gun's management is trying to put their best foot forward and give the fans something they never had before. And because we aren't like other bands "thats okay" The only best foot they seem to be putting forward is the one that leads them directly towards money. And I get it. Everyone has to make a living, but do the means justify the ends? No. In fact, a bunch of street poets told me about this one time: "And I'll try to paint a story, got your pictures to tell Yeah, you got to make a livin' with what you bring yourself to sell" We should have listened. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Bitchisback said: Some of you guys make me laugh, as if anybody in this band ever gave a fuck about what anybody thought. Maybe you guys haven't been paying attention the last 30 years 🤔 but this band has never shied away from expressing their opinions, and clearly everybody in the band is strongly against Trump. Also fuck Trump. The people who also say leave the politics out of music also make me laugh, as if politics haven't been in music for well, forever. I'm proud of the guys for standing up for what they believe in and not hiding away like some pansy ass pussies afraid to let their voice be heard. If shipping wasn't 10 bucks I would consider getting this shirt Well said mate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Bitchisback said: Some of you guys make me laugh, as if anybody in this band ever gave a fuck about what anybody thought. Maybe you guys haven't been paying attention the last 30 years 🤔 but this band has never shied away from expressing their opinions, and clearly everybody in the band is strongly against Trump. Also fuck Trump. The people who also say leave the politics out of music also make me laugh, as if politics haven't been in music for well, forever. I'm proud of the guys for standing up for what they believe in and not hiding away like some pansy ass pussies afraid to let their voice be heard. If shipping wasn't 10 bucks I would consider getting this shirt So you would waste your money on a poorly timed shirt to “own the trumpets?” Shirt probably took 6 minutes to “make” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natty Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, nambis said: Well said mate. what the shirt says is "live and let die" covid 45. That s not standing up for anything!!!! the shirt refers to covid and basically means some live some die. the trump thing is an inside joke. they present to the public a shirt with covid "live and let die" on it. a virus that killed hundreds thousands people. some were lucky enough to survive... and then they have to read a disgusting thing like that... come on... trump is an idiot but GNR as well aftee this. They could have released a shirt with "fuck trump" or "fuck 45..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Natty said: what the shirt says is "live and let die" covid 45. That s not standing up for anything!!!! the shirt refers to covid and basically means some live some die. the trump thing is an inside joke. they present to the public a shirt with covid "live and let die" on it. a virus that killed hundreds thousands people. some were lucky enough to survive... and then they have to read a disgusting thing like that... come on... trump is an idiot but GNR as well aftee this. They could have released a shirt with "fuck trump" or "fuck 45..." That would have been worse imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 "Complaints, complaints, complaints...." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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