estrangedtwat Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 If you can't get the litho, the t-shirt from the tourtruck site is live right now: https://gnrtourtruck.com/products/city-event-tee-los-angeles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixtlan Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Is there a mandate from Global to produce film related posters? This the fourth film reference and second Jack Nicholson inspired poster. If they are doing films then make Chicago a Dark Knight poster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B5Redeye Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Slash1227 said: Ohh 500. I'm predicting 300 will be on eBay Hoping that GNR "management" has stepped in based on their efforts at the last show and this is now being combated some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 I like the LA one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 hours ago, amaninjapan said: Lithograph for Los Angeles Looks fantastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missilehead Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 hours ago, estrangedtwat said: Oh, I think the shit I slung speaks for itself. That’s true, you were the guy that got so nervous you had to go potty before the Tokyo show right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, missilehead said: That’s true, you were the guy that got so nervous you had to go potty before the Tokyo show right? You were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, missilehead said: That’s true, you were the guy that got so nervous you had to go potty before the Tokyo show right? What an opening post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missilehead Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, janrichmond said: You were there? No, he admits it on podcasts and threads? However, was he there to make the claim of plagiarism against @facefirst? Obvious shill and libel comment. 2 hours ago, Pele said: What an opening post! Seemed appropriate. Edited August 20, 2021 by missilehead Better information 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Yeah that was me. I almost shit my pants at the Tokyo 2017 Tokyo concert. We're all just human beings. I just happened to come down with a case of the shits at the worst possible moment! Now as for who the obvious "shill" is..... Guy who freely posts his opinions on whatever he feels like, calling it like he sees it, 2500 posts, been here for years, nothing to hide..... OR... Dude who has 1 post and shows up mysteriously to attack me, throwing around words like "libel" when I point out a plagiarism so obvious Stevie Wonder could see it from the other side of the room. Gee, I wonder who "missilehead" is an alt account for. Couldn't POSSIBLY be Geoff May, could it? Nah, that's too obvious. I'd never want to suggest such a thing and get sued for "libel." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missilehead Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 @estrangedtwatit now seems to be flowing from your mouth.. well, keyboard. I've been here over a year. Like many other users my preference is not to clog up forums with stupid, bitter and disrespectful comments (2,500 as in your case). For the record, this is not a back-up account for @facefirst, I don't know him and you've only succeeded in making another unfounded accusation. Now... back to my relative obscurity to enjoy Guns N Roses lithographs. I MIGHT return if you have something equally idiotic to say in the future. Bye for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 You will be deeply missed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facefirst Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 6 hours ago, estrangedtwat said: Yeah that was me. I almost shit my pants at the Tokyo 2017 Tokyo concert. We're all just human beings. I just happened to come down with a case of the shits at the worst possible moment! Now as for who the obvious "shill" is..... Guy who freely posts his opinions on whatever he feels like, calling it like he sees it, 2500 posts, been here for years, nothing to hide..... OR... Dude who has 1 post and shows up mysteriously to attack me, throwing around words like "libel" when I point out a plagiarism so obvious Stevie Wonder could see it from the other side of the room. Gee, I wonder who "missilehead" is an alt account for. Couldn't POSSIBLY be Geoff May, could it? Nah, that's too obvious. I'd never want to suggest such a thing and get sued for "libel." Asshole, I have one account. This one. Have a mod check the IPs if you want. I have no use for an alt account. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 What do you guys think of this poster I am working on? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backinblack Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Geoff May is so good at copying that he made a copy of his own user account 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facefirst Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Three copies, actually. I’ve made a career out of copying artwork. Edited August 20, 2021 by facefirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: What do you guys think of this poster I am working on? This is the post of the day. Good game everyone. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) So what if he copied it? Musicians have been copying each other's music for decades. At least he's not friendly with the gnfnr gang unlike a fellow user here. Edited August 20, 2021 by Stay.Of.Execution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 I’m not giving shit for being a talented artist, I like his designs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcs953 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Does anyone know if they are enforcing a one litho per person at the shows, they had a merchandise truck at the la show and there are sellers on eBay with many multiples of the litho to sell, so I find the enforcement hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mcs953 said: Does anyone know if they are enforcing a one litho per person at the shows, they had a merchandise truck at the la show and there are sellers on eBay with many multiples of the litho to sell, so I find the enforcement hard to believe. Seems to change from show to show. One city had 2 per person, some had no limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcs953 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Whats LA been going for on eBay? There are 500 of them so the asking prices seem a little inflated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MarHin22 Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/13/2021 at 9:38 AM, facefirst said: That's me. Yeah, Global is a horrible company to work with that screws over their artists, in my experience. GNR is complicit as well. Their manager gives zero fucks. It is what it is. Needless to say, I'm done doing GNR lithos. If you care to see what the Columbus and Baltimore designs would have been you can see them at www.geoffmay.com. The GNR stuff on my site was either licensed to them or is still my property. I also passed on Vegas and Atlantic city after this whole shitshow. APs with Global was ALWAYS a thing. They pay absolute GARBAGE up front. Getting the APs made the job worthwhile and it paid the bills. I worked for 3 months on nothing but GNR posters and tees. What did I get for my efforts? About $2500 all in. When it came time to take delivery of my APs I was told to kick rocks. GNR's management doesn't care either. All they care about is that the band is making money. Fuck the artists. If I sound bitter and mad, well yeah. Fuck Global and GNR! I was given the green light to share these emails between you, Geoff May, and Fernando Lebeis, Gn'R manager, as there is always two sides of a story. I don't know how to insert images of the email screenshots so I'm just going to quote here. But I can send them to a Mod here for them to see them and post them. To begin Fernando initiated contact with you as soon as heard of your complaints on social media: August 11, 2021: "Hey man, just got a heads up on some GNR related issues? Can you fill me in?" You responded to him asking who he was and he had to tell you he was Gn'Rs manager. Then you basically told him that you were expecting to get 20 - 50 proofs to make $30k to $60k by selling them. You saw that a Boston litho got sold for about $600 and you decided to make lots of money as you saw how high that went for: ".... So with submission and approval fees I basically cleared $3k for 3 months of work. If I had known going in that there would be no artist proofs I would have passed on the job. In the past Global has always given me anywhere between 20-50 proofs for me to sell on my own. All numbered as proofs and signed so there’s no confusion that these were not purchased at the venue. This has ruined my relationship with Global and it doesn’t really reflect well on the band either because I was told by Charles Dooher that the band wouldn’t authorize proofs anyways. I would imagine the band wouldn’t be too keen on going out on the road if in the end each member was clearing less than flipping burgers at McDonald’s. So I was looking to clear anywhere from $30k-60k on proofs (the Boston one is going for $500-600 already, which is nuts!) which would have helped me financially get back on track since Covid had trashed my last almost 2 years. Now it looks like I get basically nothing while everyone else profits off of my work." In Fernando's reply to you (below), he mentioned exactly why they don't authorize artists to auction off the art for their own gain. Gn'R wants fans to get them at fair prices (and hence the reason why since Denver, lithos are being sold inside only so ebayers won't get access to these for profit ). His response to you was not rude. He stated exactly why he couldn't authorize what you were asking for (for those that don't know, Charles works for Global) : August 12, 2021: "Hey there, sorry for the delay. As you know, we are on tour. I spoke with Global and got their side of things, as we know, there's always two sides of every disagreement. I don't recall ever giving the ok for artists to auction off the work we commissioned for their own gain, we of course support the artists and have no issues sharing credit etc and work on finding other means to make it profitable for you the artist and other artists like yourself. However, these prints are for the fans and we charge what we charge on the show and limit the purchase of the lithos for its specialty. If the fan which purchased the piece at face value decides to sell it, then it's their business. I did also reviewed some of the words you used against the band which is your right, however I find them baseless and rude. Charles also shared your comments to him directly, which I find it extremely offensive. I am certain we could of found a way to remedy the situation, however I feel too much negativity has ensued and unfortunately it is best to cut ties. I do really like your art and I am sorry of how everything fell apart." And your response to him was basically telling Fernando to watch for the prints you were going to do: " Oh, and I bet you’re heartbroken about how things worked out. Such a shame you don’t have to dish some money out to the artists.l, or even mention their name. Stay tuned for my prints." So I don't see anywhere how he was rude to you at all. You just didn't like the answer. You wanted prints to make money, he said no because fans should get them for $50. Other artists as Arian Buhler have the same contracts/agreements that you have with Global to make art for Gn'R. So it's not like you're being excluded out of something other artists for Gn'R are getting. Also, you have done work for Gn'R in years prior when the agreement was the same, and now all of the sudden you say you didn't know you couldn't do APs?? Please. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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