Russel Nash Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Well. too bad for the youtube spectators. Everything is better when you get your fat ass away from the couch right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Italian girl Posted November 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) well, of course excitement is the salt of life. that's why I go to concerts and don't stay at home watching bad videos on you tube.. I don't care if he sings bad (as some people say)..... once the lights turn off, it's a kind of magic I can't explain. In this moment if my favourite band plays the telephone directory, I don't mind. it's not a waste of money!! ok I have to admit that not everybody can feel this way.... peace. Edited November 2, 2016 by Italian girl 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsend Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Mistakes can happen....That's what makes "live" music so exciting. At least Axl wasn't miming like some singers do. Edited November 2, 2016 by axlsend 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonok Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) I remember when the first leg of the US tour started and Axl sounded not as strong as around July/August and everyone here was losing their shit (including me), saying things like, "He shot his voice with AC/DC, Mickey is back, he sounds awful, he's not into it, it's a cash grab" etc. A week or two ago I had the sudden desire to rewatch the Troub show + a bunch of videos from all throughout the tour, and I stood in awe of my previous naivety. The band sounded amazing, Axl's clean voice didn't bother me at all and we should finally drill it into our heads that he is never going to sound like '87-'93 again. Subconsciously everyone's kind of hoping for that, and comparing his current vocals to that. Just stop. It's not going to happen. He sounds bloody brilliant for a 54 y/o man singing his ass off every night, and these past few SA shows also sound great, albeit with a few mistakes here and there. Compared to the US leg, he sounds weaker, yes, but in no way is it bad. The crowd is loving it, the band is loving it, and the only people who aren't are a bunch of eternally unsatisfied Periscope viewers. I think @KeyserSoze put it best - this band isn't going to be around forever, and if you want to appreciate its last stand, then do so. If you really hate it so much, either get up there and sing instead of Axl, or just stop spreading so much negativity around. Do you have a clue how disconcerting and off-putting it is when you see all these people writing comments along the lines of, "he sucks, he can't sing, Mickey this, Mickey that, Mickeeeey"? Literally dissuades people from wanting to go to a show. And what for? I saw the comments before I'd seen any videos and thought it was a Bridge School-type of disaster, and it was nothing of the sort. They sound awesome, nowhere near perfect, but that's GNFNR for ya - the eternal misfits. And let's not forget that Axl's most likely sick and that's the reason for his weaker vocals lately - I mean, they dropped friggin' Coma, there's definitely something wrong. Give him time...and just a little patience. Edited November 2, 2016 by nonok 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Powerage5 said: I disagree - virtually all I saw about his voice on here during both AC/DC legs was complaining that he is better with AC/DC, and that somehow translates into "He cares more about AC/DC and their fans than GN'R and their fans". I think it's true that his voice is better with AC/DC right now, but I don't necessarily think it's a conscious choice; I just think his voice right now is better suited to AC/DC than GN'R. Well I'm comparing GN'R with GN'R. I've seen videos of the U.S. Tour. I went to the shows in L.A. I watched S.A. shows videos. The way I see it Axl is struggling now. I didn't see that during the U.S. Tour. Maybe he needs a show or two to get his act together. I'd like to know why OTGM, Coma and My Michelle have been dropped. Yeah they played UTLH but that's not enough. There was no full replacement. And all we get is people coming with silly excuses like the wind or the phone mic. Not all of us like what we see in this S.A. Tour from Axl's part. The same way that there are people who don't like the way Slash plays TIL or other CD songs. That's their opinion. The way they see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GibsonLP Posted November 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Obviously a clip cannot thoroughly capture the excitement and experience, but it is accurately recording what has been placed in front of it. If Axl sings like Mickey, that vocal will descend down its miniature microphone and be rendered so. The reverse is true, if Axl sounds terrific. Besides, the technology renders rather good boots in my opinion, speaking from the experience of somebody who listens to many pre-mobile bootlegs. I've always wondered why bands spend a huge amount of money in the studio when they could just record their album on their iPhone microphone 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Powerage5 Posted November 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 57 minutes ago, Russel Nash said: Well. too bad for the youtube spectators. Everything is better when you get your fat ass away from the couch right? I think that's a bit of an unfair statement to make. You're making the assumption that the people critiquing his voice are sitting at home "on their fat asses", doing this for everyone show, and haven't attended any themselves? Or, regardless of if they did see shows, they shouldn't comment on a show they weren't at? i mean, it's a discussion forum FFS. If people only commented on shows they attended, or commented on all shows but didn't critique them because anything wrong with the performance could be accredited to "crappy cell phone videos", this place would be dead. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post xBrownstonex Posted November 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Gem Archer said: inside the moshpit Ive got goosebumps 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onurbayrak03 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 hours ago, IncitingChaos said: When people say "he's 54 this is the best he's going to be, I'd like to see you try" I think that's missing the point that in August he sounded like this now if someone criticized him here and someone else said "cmon this is the best you can expect from Axl at this point" id completely agree! Houston was the best of 2016 GNR Axl. But hopefully nobody thinks what Axl has done on this leg is the best he has. His voice doesn't sound as seem less as it was on the NA tour, even songs like Nightrain sound forced now, I'm not going to comment on Jungle last night bc it is what it is. Best hope is he's just not feeling well and will bounce back soon. With the number of shows he's done this year the biggest worry is vocal damage or fatigue. Hopefully neither. HOUSTON MAN FUCKING HOUSTON... What happened to his voice that night? He sounded so raspy and powerful, and the next show he didnt sound as good. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post metalms Posted November 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2016 22 minutes ago, nonok said: I remember when the first leg of the US tour started and Axl sounded not as strong as around July/August and everyone here was losing their shit (including me), saying things like, "He shot his voice with AC/DC, Mickey is back, he sounds awful, he's not into it, it's a cash grab" etc. A week or two ago I had the sudden desire to rewatch the Troub show + a bunch of videos from all throughout the tour, and I stood in awe of my previous naivety. The band sounded amazing, Axl's clean voice didn't bother me at all and we should finally drill it into our heads that he is never going to sound like '87-'93 again. Subconsciously everyone's kind of hoping for that, and comparing his current vocals to that. Just stop. It's not going to happen. He sounds bloody brilliant for a 54 y/o man singing his ass off every night, and these past few SA shows also sound great, albeit with a few mistakes here and there. Compared to the US leg, he sounds weaker, yes, but in no way is it bad. The crowd is loving it, the band is loving it, and the only people who aren't are a bunch of eternally unsatisfied Periscope viewers. I think @KeyserSoze put it best - this band isn't going to be around forever, and if you want to appreciate its last stand, then do so. If you really hate it so much, either get up there and sing instead of Axl, or just stop spreading so much negativity around. Do you have a clue how disconcerting and off-putting it is when you see all these people writing comments along the lines of, "he sucks, he can't sing, Mickey this, Mickey that, Mickeeeey"? Literally dissuades people from wanting to go to a show. And what for? I saw the comments before I'd seen any videos and thought it was a Bridge School-type of disaster, and it was nothing of the sort. They sound awesome, nowhere near perfect, but that's GNFNR for ya - the eternal misfits. And let's not forget that Axl's most likely sick and that's the reason for his weaker vocals lately - I mean, they dropped friggin' Coma, there's definitely something wrong. Give him time...and just a little patience. 25 years ago you wouldn't be able to dissect every note, because YouTube and periscope didn't exist. You actually went to the live shows and made up your own mind. It was the total package. The excitement, the music. No lip syncing. Just genuine Rock N Roll. Which by it’s very nature makes it “imperfect” I really liked coming to the boards but lately the negativity has just been too much to take. (I can hear people now thinking… well then get lost lol) I have been over the moon since I heard about the partial reunion and feel blessed I was able to attend two GNR shows and an AXL/DC show in Philly. I found myself coming to the boards and feeling bummed out by what I was reading. I shared numerous periscope links to give back and share with like- minded fans, but I am starting to think maybe some are here for different reasons. I think the only fan base more negative than GNR's is Metallica’s.. Geez the god awful things there fans say about a band they supposedly love. By no means should you just blindly love something, but the amount of fantasy, what is going through Axl’s mind or he is not trying or he is fighting with Slash is borderline delusional and an assumption concerning something you know nothing about. Like @keysersoze I am enjoying the ride and very thankful for it. If you choose to slag on the band and complain that is your choice, and you certainly have every right to do so, but I find it sad for a band that I love so much and gave me so much with thier music over the years to get this kind of reaction from there own fan base, when overall the tour has gone well and sounded great. It seems a bit disrespectful to me. You can attack me if you like, but I feel like there are plenty that feel like me, but don’t always speak up. That is all… 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, GibsonLP said: I've always wondered why bands spend a huge amount of money in the studio when they could just record their album on their iPhone microphone Many of the greatest albums were made by technology inferior to a modern mobile phone such as an Iphone: antiquated gear, paltry tracks (with which to overdub), little time or production resources. Abbey Road, for the duration of the '60s, The Beatles era, still had only four-tracks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russel Nash Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, Powerage5 said: I think that's a bit of an unfair statement to make. You're making the assumption that the people critiquing his voice are sitting at home "on their fat asses", doing this for everyone show, and haven't attended any themselves? Or, regardless of if they did see shows, they shouldn't comment on a show they weren't at? i mean, it's a discussion forum FFS. If people only commented on shows they attended, or commented on all shows but didn't critique them because anything wrong with the performance could be accredited to "crappy cell phone videos", this place would be dead. No, not at all... i didn't say that. Anyone can comment on anything. I was pretty clear, it sucks for youtube/periscope attendance. They clearly miss a near perfect show or stay home for being afraid of a mickey mouse situation. I get it, the tickets are expensive. But even if you don't like the way Axl handles the vocals these days, there's Slash. He's in top form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cantona Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 17 minutes ago, onurbayrak03 said: HOUSTON MAN FUCKING HOUSTON... What happened to his voice that night? He sounded so raspy and powerful, and the next show he didnt sound as good. Why? Someone said it had something to do with the humidity there, and how it positively affected his vocal chords, but I guess nobody really knows for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Powerage5 said: I disagree - virtually all I saw about his voice on here during both AC/DC legs was complaining that he is better with AC/DC, and that somehow translates into "He cares more about AC/DC and their fans than GN'R and their fans". I think it's true that his voice is better with AC/DC right now, but I don't necessarily think it's a conscious choice; I just think his voice right now is better suited to AC/DC than GN'R. I tended to agree until he said he brought his vocal coach along on the ACDC tour that he hadn't worked with in over 20 years...I mean I get it, you are learning new songs you want to do it right, but where the hell was this vocal coach in 2011-2014. Axl put in the work for ACDC but ignored what was happening with gnr. I never doubt Axl's effort, but he hasn't made a conscious effort to improve his performance with gnr since 06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GibsonLP Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 56 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Many of the greatest albums were made by technology inferior to a modern mobile phone such as an Iphone: antiquated gear, paltry tracks (with which to overdub), little time or production resources. Abbey Road, for the duration of the '60s, The Beatles era, still had only four-tracks! That is true but they didn't record Abbey Road outdoors, 100 metres from the source of the sound with 50,000 fans and wind to compete with. And four tracks beats one track recorded on a mobile that then pipes it over a poor internet connection to where it ends up played through someone's tinny computer speaker. They also had sound engineers assisting them in controlled conditions. Look at the difference in sound quality you get between three different periscope streams of the same show - they can sound completely different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornAdler Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Gem Archer said: A little bit of wttj proshot, unfortunately is when axl fucks it up http://tn.com.ar/musica/hoy/guns-n-roses-en-rosario-asi-sono-welcome-jungle_750563 AT 1:00 Into it he runs over and turns something with his foot, what is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, PopcornAdler said: AT 1:00 Into it he runs over and turns something with his foot, what is that? with that switch he can turn off the microphone and talk to the band ear monitors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asia Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Wtf do you have against his voice on that bit of jungle? It was good, it was really good. That he made some timing mistakes or was out of breath? It is a live show, mistakes are a part of it. In the 90s there were times he skipped several lines, he was so out of breath. I dont know what you people expect of him but youre crazy. And what is saddest is that you really ruin the experience of following these shows on this board. With all the irrational bitching instead of commenting what actually happenes at that show it becomes unbearable rather than nice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrkoncerti Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 hour ago, xBrownstonex said: Ive got goosebumps What a crazy crowd...Definitely this guys knowing to rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornAdler Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 15 minutes ago, SeBaZ said: with that switch he can turn off the microphone and talk to the band ear monitors technology.... hot damn! so he pretty much apologized at that moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 my video! sorry for my voice, couldn't stop shouting! was an awesome show! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Mistakes happen, but that did make me LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Angeles_ said: my video! sorry for my voice, couldn't stop shouting! was an awesome show! Great video, could you see the stage properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Slash787 said: Great video, could you see the stage properly? yes!! I did, in a small size...but I could see so good!! this is my only video, because I was mad shouting and dancing, there wasn´t campo vip at Rosario show, I will be near stage in River stadium!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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