Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: You said ''the Brits have been involved in every single US invasion and filthy action''. I pointed out Vietnam which demonstrates you erred. Fuck knows. Coca cola maybe in the 30s haha Just making sure...I figured it was just more nonsense posted by Phishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: The U.S. was providing aid to the Nazis? Why don't you read anything provided to you ? Harry Truman, was quoted in the pages of New York Times in June 1941 as saying, “If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible …” For example, John D. Rockefeller Jr. owned a controlling interest in the Standard Oil corporation, but the next largest stockholder was the German chemical company I. G. Farben, through which the firm sold $20 million worth of gasoline and lubricants to the Nazis. And the Venezuelan branch of that company sent 13,000 tons of crude oil to Germany each month, which the Third Reich’s robust chemical industry immediately converted into gasoline. But business between the two nations was not limited to fuel sales – in addition, tungsten, synthetic rubber, and many different components for the auto industry were also being shipped across the Atlantic to the German Führer by Henry Ford. In particular, it is no secret that 30% of all the tires produced in his factories were used by the German Wehrmacht. The full details of how the Fords and Rockefellers colluded to supply Nazi Germany are still not fully known because those were strictly guarded trade secrets, but even the little that has been made public and acknowledged by historians makes it clear that the war did not in any way slow the pace of the US trade with Berlin. Edited November 12, 2017 by Pishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 6 hours ago, soon said: Not sure who coined it, but it means Communism at the State level. That the Nation is run by a communist hierarchy. Some people would identify as Communists but not agree with State Communism. Often the difference is referred to like: 'Jonny is a Statist Commie' No, I dont mean socialism - why do you think that? Don't you think State Communism is a bit paradoxal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 11 minutes ago, Pishy said: I've seen you gassing up that pile of shit Churchill more than once , and claiming that the Brits have such a minor role in today's US invasions and what was done in the past is somehow tempered by the tantalizing tales of the royal brothers and sisters and first cousins fucking one another . Not only are the Brits actively involved in much of US foreign policy , in fact this very moment in seven states in the MENA alone, but they set the foundation that the US is able to build their terror on. It's not about a "close relationship", cut the crap, Brits are soaking in the blood of millions , not just past, present day. I do not know what this is about to be quite frank but I make no apologies for liking Winston. If you are discussing Iraq and similar Anglo-American escapades you are rather preaching to the choir as few (in Britain) agreed with that war then and no one does today.You can include me. There is a reason why Blair is hated here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Chewbacca said: Don't you think State Communism is a bit paradoxal? no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, soon said: no What is the difference between communism and socialism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I do not know what this is about to be quite frank but I make no apologies for liking Winston. If you are discussing Iraq and similar Anglo-American escapades you are rather preaching to the choir as few (in Britain) agreed with that war then and no one does today.You can include me. There is a reason why Blair is hated here. You like the guy that said "I hate Indians, a beastly peoole with a beastly religion " blame for the Bengal Famine rested with Churchill. In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal. Iraq war? What about Afghanistan , Yemen, Syria, Libya? Oh dear , we are so bumbling and fumbling , big mistake in Iraq, like dropping a glass of milk. Edited November 12, 2017 by Pishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, Pishy said: Why don't you read anything provided to you ? Harry Truman, was quoted in the pages of New York Times in June 1941 as saying, “If we see that Germany is winning the war, we ought to help Russia; and if that Russia is winning, we ought to help Germany, and in that way let them kill as many as possible …” For example, John D. Rockefeller Jr. owned a controlling interest in the Standard Oil corporation, but the next largest stockholder was the German chemical company I. G. Farben, through which the firm sold $20 million worth of gasoline and lubricants to the Nazis. And the Venezuelan branch of that company sent 13,000 tons of crude oil to Germany each month, which the Third Reich’s robust chemical industry immediately converted into gasoline. But business between the two nations was not limited to fuel sales – in addition, tungsten, synthetic rubber, and many different components for the auto industry were also being shipped across the Atlantic to the German Führer by Henry Ford. In particular, it is no secret that 30% of all the tires produced in his factories were used by the German Wehrmacht. The full details of how the Fords and Rockefellers colluded to supply Nazi Germany are still not fully known because those were strictly guarded trade secrets, but even the little that has been made public and acknowledged by historians makes it clear that the war did not in any way slow the pace of the US trade with Berlin. Do you have a link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: What is the difference between communism and socialism? ... is what you could've typed into google http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/do-you-know-the-difference-between-a-communist-and-a-socialist-a6708086.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Pishy said: You like the guy that said "I hate Indians, a beastly peoole with a beastly religion " blame for the Bengal Famine rested with Churchill. In 1943, up to four million Bengalis starved to death when Churchill diverted food to British soldiers and countries such as Greece while a deadly famine swept through Bengal. Guess what was happening in 1943? A world war . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Guess what was happening in 1943? A world war . There's no reasoning with a Russian troll. She's on the other side bro, trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, soon said: ... is what you could've typed into google http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/do-you-know-the-difference-between-a-communist-and-a-socialist-a6708086.html So you answer is: “In a communist country, the government answers those questions. There's no private business. There's no private property. The government decides.” and “In the socialist system, there's a mix of both. The government operates the system to help all, but there is opportunity for private property and private wealth. That's generally how we talk about it.” ? In your words, how does the state work in both systems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: Do you have a link? Look above , earlier post and imbedded is Part I and @soon told you about Operation paperclip. There is also a pile of gold tooth fillings in the federal reserves , yes from the dental work of murdered Jewish people . And let's not forget how the US worked with Goebbels to invent Holodomor, which primary aim was anti Semitism to assist in the nazi genocidal project . There was collusion throughout , for multiple reasons , for anti Soviet reasons , geopolitical reasons etc I have to spell everything out for you. I'm not saying the US wanted a genocide against the Jews, they were indifferent , they collaborated for political reasons but the aim of Holodomor , fabricated by goebbels, was for a genocidal end . I provided you links with multiple links and references inside , citations . You just can't read anything beyond a fox news article I guess or refuse to. Even US scholars are in agreement with these established facts . some Americans insist on ignorance , I guess it makes them feel better and able to carry on with no guilt or shame or action Edited November 12, 2017 by Pishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Chewbacca said: So you answer is: “In a communist country, the government answers those questions. There's no private business. There's no private property. The government decides.” and “In the socialist system, there's a mix of both. The government operates the system to help all, but there is opportunity for private property and private wealth. That's generally how we talk about it.” ? In your words, how does the state work in both systems? To be clear you are asking me this because I noted a difference between someone identifying as communist but not believing in State Communism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, soon said: To be clear you are asking me this because I noted a difference between someone identifying as communist but not believing in State Communism? No. Just curious on how you perceive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Pishy said: Look above , earlier post and imbedded is Part I and @soon told you about Operation paperclip. There is also a pile of gold tooth fillings in the federal reserves , yes from the dental work of murdered Jewish people . And let's not forget how the US worked with Goebbls to invent Holodomor, which primary aim was anti Semitism to assist in the nazi genocidal project . There was collusion throughout , for multiple reasons , for anti Soviet reasons , geopolitical reasons etc We need to start a conspiracy theory thread for the mental midgets of the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kasanova King said: There's no reasoning with a Russian troll. She's on the other side bro, trust me. On the other side of imperialism? you are finally correct . Why the fuck would any sane person be on the side of rapists, murderers and thieves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Ahh, a Russian? Tell her about the time her country allied itself with the Nazis and proceeded to swallow Poland up? Why were Ukrainians, Don Cossacks etc joining the Waffen-SS? Because they all hated the Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Ahh, a Russian? Tell her about the time her country allied itself with the Nazis and proceeded to swallow Poland up? Why were Ukrainians, Don Cossacks etc joining the Waffen-SS? Because they all hated the Russians. Russians have committed more war crimes throughout history than any other nation other than maybe Nazi Germany....but it's a close call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Pishy said: On the other side of imperialism? you are finally correct . Why the fuck would any sane person be on the side of rapists, murderers and thieves? You're russian? But you're living on NY now according to your profile. Is that right? How old are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Kasanova King said: We need to start a conspiracy theory thread for the mental midgets of the forum. You really are ignorant and refuse to remedy the problem . Why don't you look into it things? That would be the response of someone who is not a mental midget . But you just keep reciting your elementary school lessons given to you by the people re-writing history and denying their own crimes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pishy said: On the other side of imperialism? you are finally correct . Why the fuck would any sane person be on the side of rapists, murderers and thieves? Russians have committed more war crimes throughout history than any other nation other than maybe Nazi Germany....but it's a close call. 2 minutes ago, Pishy said: You really are ignorant and refuse to remedy the problem . Why don't you look into it things? That would be the response of someone who is not a mental midget . But you just keep reciting your elementary school lessons given to you by the people re-writing history and denying their own crimes . You keep posting nothing but bullshit conspiracy theories that have been debunked. Not only that, you post outright lies about the current state of affairs in the United States. I've called you out on it a dozen times and you can't provide a single credible source for any of your bullshit. Edited November 12, 2017 by Kasanova King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Kasanova King said: Russians have committed more war crimes throughout history than any other nation other than maybe Nazi Germany....but it's a close call. Katyn massacre which they tried to blame on the Germans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Chewbacca said: No. Just curious on how you perceive it. Do you think Im a Communist? I cant follow your questions. And you say you are a medical Doctor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pishy Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Ahh, a Russian? Tell her about the time her country allied itself with the Nazis and proceeded to swallow Poland up? Why were Ukrainians, Don Cossacks etc joining the Waffen-SS? Because they all hated the Russians. Now you're defending the ukrainians who are Nazis? The ones the US just recently supported who slaughtered people in the street and fly their SS banners? Of course they hate Russia but that's a fraction , the rest of Ukraine voted otherwise http://www.globalresearch.ca/there-are-no-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-and-the-obama-administration-does-not-support-fascists/5370269 https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/05/chronology-of-the-ukrainian-coup/#.Uxd278jBN3g.twitter https://slavyangrad.org/2016/10/09/welcome-to-donbass-full-documentary/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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