Do you consider 'Civil War' a deep cut?

[scooby845]

I always thought it's a song that cannot be dropped from the regular setlist. 

Then, on the other hand, it's pretty massive to be a regular staple, yet people respond to it as a massive hit (as do I)...

Thoughts?

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I don't consider it a deep cut.

[Sosso]

It was a Deep cut in 2011

[F*ck Fear]

To me it's not a deep cut.

Locomotive is a deep cut. I hear Civil War on the radio often enough.

[soon]

Its interesting to ponder.  Immediately I think "no" but even as I tally up all the reasons I dont consider it a deep cut theres a nagging question that 'isnt it kinda a deep cut though?'

I vote no.  

[J Dog]

I use to call it a deep cut back in the day but not now. Everybody I know, even non die hards, when it first comes on, they immediately start talking with the movie sample, "what we've got here is, failure to communicate". I'd call it a hit.

Edited February 11, 2018 by J Dog

[James Bond]

It's not exactly a number one hit but it's definitely popular enough that I wouldn't call it a deep cut.

[Amir]

I'd call it a fan favourite. It'll get a great reaction from most of the people who go to GNR gigs (can always hear the crowd singing along to it at shows), but it's not something that the general population would know like SCOM or PC or NR.

[IncitingChaos]

It’s been a fan favorite since Greatest hits was released. Most casuals have that and AFD.

 

UYI as a whole is underrated but like I’ve said if GNR can hook you with one performance or one song and you start diving into their catalog of music you begin to realize how talented they were and that’s usually validated by UYI and namely the first time you hear CW. So for people who discover gnr in the future there are plenty of great “Easter eggs” worth of songs and depending on how you discover them CW is definitely a winner 

[Tom-Ass]

The song has gotten regular airplay on every rock station in my region since the summer prior to the Illusions coming out. Definitely not a deep cut around here anyway.. I would think that most rock fans know it.

[ludurigan]

33 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

It’s been a fan favorite since Greatest hits was released.

so the world begin after Greatest hits was released?

civil war was played in pretty much every show of the biggest GNR tour ever (1991)

and then it was played in pretty much every show of the GNC tour (1992) -- which was bigger than any GNR tour

how on earth can such a song be a deep cut?

[Sosso]

I considered it as a Deep cut at the concerts in 2011 but, it became one of the most played songs in the setlist since then again 

Edited February 11, 2018 by Sosso

[Stress Fracture]

I wouldn’t call any single that featured on Greatest Hits a deep cut.

[IncitingChaos]

8 minutes ago, ludurigan said:

so the world begin after Greatest hits was released?

civil war was played in pretty much every show of the biggest GNR tour ever (1991)

and then it was played in pretty much every show of the GNC tour (1992) -- which was bigger than any GNR tour

how on earth can such a song be a deep cut?

Not at all. It’s just the simple fact that casual fans are more in tune with WTTJ, SCOM, and PC. 

CW is something that is typically rediscovered or most commonly heard on greatest hits now. 

Most people around in the early 90’s moved on after 93 and listened to other music, other bands. By 2004 most people didn’t listen to GNR regularly. When GH came out it was a nice refresher but also younger people likely discovered gnr through this release. 

I wouldn’t call it a deep cut but ask a casual fan and most will only have the big hits. CW is often forgotten about or discovered later on by people casually listening to gnr. I think For us fans who love gnr and know everything it sounds crazy to imagine any kind of gnr fan not knowing this song, but I think you’d be surprised. 

[Draguns]

In the NJ/NYC area, rock stations have played Civil War since it  was released on the "Nobody's Child" album back in 1990.  I wouldn't consider this a deep cut at all. 

[EvanG]

How can it be a deep cut when they've played it so many times and it was even released as a single?

GnR don't have many deep cuts anyway, because they don't have many songs to begin with.

 

[double talkin jive mfkr]

its a deep cut because adler was on it and it's a top UYII tune 

estranged is also a deep cut 

i'd say the entire UYII album are deep cuts minus YCM

Edited February 11, 2018 by double talkin jive mfkr

[IncitingChaos]

We need to categorize the songs haha 

top hits 

WTTJ

SCOM

PC

NR 

YCBM

PATIENCE

KOHD

Don’t Cry

————

mid hits - 

CW 

YESTERDAYS

NIGHTRAIN

ESTRANGED

LALD

RQ

ISE

MR B 

MY MICHELLE

—————-

deep cuts

everything else haha

hows that? 

[IncitingChaos]

The real shame is they didn’t play this song in 2010

best vocal moment in recent times (2011) 

best all around recent performance 

[Derick]

I don't think it's a deep cut but also I don´t think it´s a hit either. Like @IncitingChaos said  it´s more like a mid-hit...IMO,definitely not a deep cut.

 

10 minutes ago, IncitingChaos said:

The real shame is they didn’t play this song in 2010

Also in 2006 it could have been interesting to have CW on the setlist.

[marlingrl03]

2 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

The song has gotten regular airplay on every rock station in my region since the summer prior to the Illusions coming out. Definitely not a deep cut around here anyway.. I would think that most rock fans know it.

Ditto. I hear it on our rock stations a lot...which I love! Not a deep cut imho. 

[Dazey]

You can't really call a song that was released as a single a deep cut.

[Eric Cantona]

2 minutes ago, Dazey said:

You can't really call a song that was released as a single a deep cut.

EDIT: I fucked up, as usual, it's not a ''stand alone'' single 

Edited February 11, 2018 by AslatIE

[Original]

CW is a top 5 Guns song in my book.   To respond to OP- it’s not a deep cut to me, but to the majority of people I’m guessing it is.   

[soon]

I dont believe it was released as a single everywhere?  What I know is that it was on Nobodies Child and because the world was hungry for GNR the radio played it.  It was the B -Side to YCBM's single in 91.  Then in 1993 it was released as the Civil War EP - a strange thingy with the album version of it and two other album versions tracks from UYI (depending on region) and a 15 minute interview with Slash.

Wikipedia has it charting in 1992.

Im confused.  Released as first new GNR music in 2 years on Nobodies Child in 1990. B-Side in 91.  Charts in 92.  And is released as a weird (money grab?) EP in 93?

I must be missing something?

Edited February 11, 2018 by soon

[Ratam]

CW have appreciation enough ,just this not make deep cut.