Anguyen92 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) The thing about music is that it's not always about wanting to top the previous classic album. Sometimes, albums are just expressions of where musicians are in life. Duff has some ideas and a theme that results in him wanting releasing an album. He wants to release it. Why not? Will it be great? Who knows? Is it going to be an expression of where Duff is at in his life as a person and a musician? I would think so. I think the issue is that people (not really people in this forum, just people in general) wanting Slash and Duff's albums from their various bands to be on par with GNR stuff, and I don't really think that's their intention. They just have ideas that they like and work with a couple of good people to hash it out and have a good time doing it and releasing it and feel proud of the recent stuff they release. It's not always about perfection or selling millions of albums or drawing big stadium crowds or having the album becoming a classic. They just like making music, when it comes to them in that moment, at a consistent basis whether the music is great or not. It's who they are. Edited December 6, 2018 by Anguyen92 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallex78 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, DeadSlash said: Really? "Hope" is a good tune, but I don't hear it and think "GnR." At all. It could’ve lended itself I think to the new GN’R sound I think Axl was going for, yet still retaining some of the classic style of GN’R. That Slash intro lead guitar is just stellar. 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: I don't see why not. On Illusion Duff had his vocal songs (''So Fine'' and to a lesser extent ''Get in the Ring''). Slash's leads are simply glorious on it. I can perfectly envision ''Hope'' as the Duff vocal song among a 10-12 song GN'R album. Absolutely. That is some beautiful lead guitar isn’t it? This was recorded in 1997, and could’ve easily been a GN’R original Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony adler Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, CAFC Nick said: Someone please reassure me this doesn’t affect any potential (really optimistic...) GNR recording Ok, for the past 2 and 1/2 years these guys gave everything to their true fans and now they are using that energy to push out all this extra new music before they get down to a true ‘gnr’ album 👍 Edited December 6, 2018 by tony adler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony adler Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 🇺🇸 Edited December 6, 2018 by tony adler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Legendador said: move forward! GnR isn't, so why should I? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallex78 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: I personally think there are plenty of worthy "nostalgia" albums. For example, I'm not like a diehard Van Halen fan, but I really enjoyed ADKOT. I bet their major fans are mainly very happy to have it. Same goes for a lot of older bands. Some even release genuinely creative and really solid albums like Rush, and when they aren't that great, at least they tried. The old albums don't get worse because the new album is bad. Axl has released some garbage songs too. They just doesn't stick out as much because he is only on like 4 original full studio albums, a double EP, and a covers album. If we get a new GN’R album as good as Van Halen’s ADKOT, I'll happy. That was a really great album that sits nicely alongside the other DLR albums. It’s just a shame that the band members need to seek new musical fulfilment outside of the band, because the band itself doesn’t do anything new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Reading this earlier litterally made me laugh out loud. I mean it's cool that Duff is releasing a new album but come on 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: since Guns N' Roses folded in 1993. i didn't realise Skin n Bones was a farewell tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner55 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 hours ago, downzy said: I think Axl only wants to release what he thinks is great. Releasing music for the sake of releasing music isn't his thing. I'd agree with that. I don't got a problem with that. Just my selfish part talking haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DieselDaisy Posted December 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 hours ago, downzy said: Though most of those albums are met with barely a flicker of notice from fans and the general public (with exceptions, of course). Axl strikes me as the kind of guy that doesn't want to release something unless it's 100 percent genuine. A lot of new albums from nostalgia acts don't measure up to their previous works. I think Axl wants to avoid that kind of operation. None of those acts mentioned, AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, etc., deliberately set out to make weaker (than their former) albums. Nearly everyone of them, even a band with an ethos as embarrassing as Kiss, embarks on making the best possible album they intend to make at that particular moment in time. It is somewhat arrogant to believe that Rose is loftier than everyone else, his lethargy a virtuous trait and not something to be despised! And some albums by older acts are of a very high standard indeed. Springsteen, Dylan and Neil Young have released some of their very greatest work, masterpieces, in their middle-ages, albums like The Rising, Time out of Mind and Love and Theft. Black Ice and A Different Kind of Truth received wide acclaim as did the last two Metallica albums. The idea that Rose's tardiness is the result of an unprecedented perfection is, taking to its logical conclusion, a recipe for retirement seeing that there is always something people would change when an album comes out. Freddie Mercury was deemed a ''perfectionist'' yet Queen put out an album approximately every year. Michael Jackson was similarly a perfectionist yet he managed to release about two albums per decade. People used the ''perfectionist'' excuse for Rose during the derailment of Chinese yet that album is far from perfect; some of the lyrics are actually comical (Sorry) yet even they managed to slip through Rose's ''perfectionist'' threshold. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 hours ago, downzy said: I think Axl only wants to release what he thinks is great. Releasing music for the sake of releasing music isn't his thing. I've always felt the same. But when you think about the whole Chinese Democracy process, the rumored (multiple) rejections of it, teh re-recording with all the different people, how the actual release was a bit of a mess (errors in the booklet) and not what Axl wanted... That does make you wonder what else is at play. Not that Axl isn't picky and perfectionistic, but there are other factors too. With all the people setting up their own labels and releasing what they want (sometimes onlpy digital releases, you also have to wonder if they wouldn't fit Axl better. And then there's the pile of material they're still sitting on... Maybe there are still a lot of legal issues with those that make a release difficult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, username said: I've always felt the same. But when you think about the whole Chinese Democracy process, the rumored (multiple) rejections of it, teh re-recording with all the different people, how the actual release was a bit of a mess (errors in the booklet) and not what Axl wanted... That does make you wonder what else is at play. Not that Axl isn't picky and perfectionistic, but there are other factors too. With all the people setting up their own labels and releasing what they want (sometimes onlpy digital releases, you also have to wonder if they wouldn't fit Axl better. And then there's the pile of material they're still sitting on... Maybe there are still a lot of legal issues with those that make a release difficult? Having his own label wouldn't work for Axl. It removes the biggest excuse for him not to release music. Axl always seems to need someone to blame. The record label is a perfect scape goat for him not to release music. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I wonder if any of the current members were involved in the recording process. Slash, Dizzy or Richard, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 12 hours ago, Live Like a Suicide said: My point is that you were blaming Axl's alleged unwillingness for the lack of productivity, when the reality is that he, including Slash, Duff etc, are in one of the biggest bands in the world with many moving parts. It would be more complicated to get the ball rolling on a Guns project than a small solo project. It shouldn't be more complicated. It is fucking Rock N' Roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 23 hours ago, default_ said: Since Slash and Duff got back to GNR: Dizzy released an album Slash released an album Duff will release an album On the next months we'll probably see announcements from Richard, Melissa and even Frank. But nothing from the actual band. What a sad little band we chose to be fans of. good point but maybe you should say "what a sad little singer" instead? because the singer is obviously the one who broke the band when it actually existed and the singer is obviously the one who can't do shit since 1992 except playing appetite and a few selected cuts non-stop all over the world with whoever musicians that accept his conditions === oh, and about "choosing" not sure about you but... ...I never "chose" anything when I first listened to Guns n Roses, i HAD to listen more that has nothing to do with "choosing" as far as i can tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 05/12/2018 at 3:44 PM, gnr5 said: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/guns-n-roses-duff-mckagan-preps-2019-solo-album-763459/ at this point there is two things that can redeem Duff from betraying his own words and doing this nonsensical not-enough-loot tour with 4 aliens as if it was Guns n Roses one thing is getting izzy and slash to write and play ONE SONG with him for his new album the other thing is getting izzy to write and play on a few tracks like he did on his EP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 i want a Axl Rose Solo Album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 meh. what Duff was doing in the 1990's was awesome. it all peaked in pre-VR Loaded era. when he started doing solo stuff again after VR went to hiatus, it was all just a bland generic rock. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I think that this new stuff will be similar to 2006-2015 stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, t-p-d-a said: i want a Axl Rose Solo Album There already is one, released in 2008. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: There already is one, released in 2008. Nah, there's like one song on it that he wrote on his own. UYI had even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourteenbeers Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, EvanG said: Nah, there's like one song on it that he wrote on his own. UYI had even more. Fine, then I'll just call it an album by Axl Rose & Hired Guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fourteenbeers said: Fine, then I'll just call it an album by Axl Rose & Hired Guns That's exactly what I call it. Edited December 6, 2018 by EvanG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 22 minutes ago, zombux said: meh. what Duff was doing in the 1990's was awesome. it all peaked in pre-VR Loaded era. when he started doing solo stuff again after VR went to hiatus, it was all just a bland generic rock. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I think that this new stuff will be similar to 2006-2015 stuff. you didnt like this one? 4 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: It shouldn't be more complicated. It is fucking Rock N' Roll you are right man it is NOT complicated axl is the complicator and anyone that doesn't see that is in denial 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ludurigan said: you didnt like this one? Mediocre song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 8 hours ago, RussTCB said: Having his own label wouldn't work for Axl. It removes the biggest excuse for him not to release music. Axl always seems to need someone to blame. The record label is a perfect scape goat for him not to release music. e-fuckin-xactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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