allwaystired Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 On 5/1/2024 at 4:26 PM, DTV88 said: Duff announces a new double live album coming later this month. I guess I’m too much of a simpleton to understand why Guns hasn’t released a live album 8 years into the semi reunion With everything going on in the world right now the timing is not right..... Can you believe this was actually given as an excuse with straight face at one point?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 9 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: As of late, the anti-CD fans have been the loudest nah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, janrichmond said: nah Ok lol ... The NITL singles are still CD 🤷🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 9 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Ok lol ... The NITL singles are still CD 🤷🏻♂️ OK lol ... I still don't like CD 🤷♀️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacdaniel Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Yeah there is definitely more Nuguns fans around these days. I think most of the classic era fans have given up on this version of the band and don’t stick around. Axl has no interest in writing music. He won’t even do a live album. The best we’ll get is some more of those awful leftovers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 3 hours ago, jacdaniel said: Yeah there is definitely more Nuguns fans around these days. I think most of the classic era fans have given up on this version of the band and don’t stick around. I've been here since 2016, but I think that a portion of the CD era fans who had (semi)retired or become less active after the reunion returned because of the Village leaks. On the other hand, a portion of the classic era fans who joined, returned or became more active after 2016 and were rooting for a full reunion of the AFD lineup were disappointed as time went by and the hopes for that to happen diminished - I remember many Izzy fans who don't post anymore. And then it's just that posters on a forum naturally come and go for various reasons that many times are unrelated to the band. Edited May 3 by Blackstar 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 (edited) Question for native English speakers: As a non native speaker, although I think I have adequate comprehension skills in English, I sometimes look up a word or expression, even if I think I know what it means, to make sure I fully understand what is being said/written. So when Slash said (in the recent Classic Rock interview) that a new GN'R record has been "on the books" for a while ("and should start coming together"), I looked it up, e.g. here: But I saw that everybody in the other thread interpreted it as been "planned" or "thought about", and I was wondering if it could mean what one of the definitions in the dictionary says It's not about getting hopes up or anything like that (I don't do that - and I'm generally neither optimistic or pessimistic), just a genuine question Edited May 3 by Blackstar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post janrichmond Posted May 3 Popular Post Share Posted May 3 @Blackstar 'on the books' is scheduled at some point, that's how I read it. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 6 hours ago, janrichmond said: OK lol ... I still don't like CD 🤷♀️ That's fine! I don't care if you don't like it ... It's just weird to dismiss CD and yet like CD era songs lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I love ALL of GnR .. The AFD era .. The Illusions era .. All of the ChiDem era .. GnR has never had a bad guitar player and Axl even at his lowest is still an amazing singer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Free Bird Posted May 3 Popular Post Share Posted May 3 6 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: I love ALL of GnR .. The AFD era .. The Illusions era .. All of the ChiDem era .. GnR has never had a bad guitar player and Axl even at his lowest is still an amazing singer jokes aside, and I can only speak for myself, it’s not about bad guitarists rather than the prefered styles and the overall sound of CD. And still I enjoy half of that record. But when I compare the NITL singles to the leaked ones then to me the official released versions are nearer to the GNR sound and no wonder because Slash’s sound was added. It’s not necessarily a quality thing. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 On 5/1/2024 at 9:36 AM, janrichmond said: I've heard Pe1rhaps and Hard School on the radio, but I've never heard a CD song played (thank fuck) I heard the song CD once or twice just prior to the album coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 6 hours ago, Free Bird said: jokes aside, and I can only speak for myself, it’s not about bad guitarists rather than the prefered styles and the overall sound of CD. And still I enjoy half of that record. But when I compare the NITL singles to the leaked ones then to me the official released versions are nearer to the GNR sound and no wonder because Slash’s sound was added. It’s not necessarily a quality thing. It's all personal. To me, Hardschool and Perhaps reminded me of UYI first I heard them when they leaked. My whole point is I don't box myself in as a fan to a certain era. Since I first heard November Rain on the radio, I've been a die hard GnR fan. There isn't a single song I genuinely dislike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 3 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: It's all personal. To me, Hardschool and Perhaps reminded me of UYI first I heard them when they leaked. My whole point is I don't box myself in as a fan to a certain era. Since I first heard November Rain on the radio, I've been a die hard GnR fan. There isn't a single song I genuinely dislike. Except for The General, of course? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 29 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Except for The General, of course? Although I have made my jokes, I don't dislike the song. It's just a sonic mess, which I attribute to its releasing during the NITL era. I'm fully convinced that had this released when it should have, back in the ChiDem era, it would sound a whole lot better. But unfortunately, The General is going to be a GnR song I will never listen to more than a few times. I also don't and won't listen to the other NITL singles. I prefer the leaked versions of those songs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DTV88 Posted May 3 Popular Post Share Posted May 3 2 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: Although I have made my jokes, I don't dislike the song. It's just a sonic mess, which I attribute to its releasing during the NITL era. I'm fully convinced that had this released when it should have, back in the ChiDem era, it would sound a whole lot better. But unfortunately, The General is going to be a GnR song I will never listen to more than a few times. I also don't and won't listen to the other NITL singles. I prefer the leaked versions of those songs. I mostly agree with you here. The original NuGuns versions absolutely sound more cohesive. Personally, I just don’t like Robin’s rather weak and uninspired solos. Just my opinion of course. Outside of This I Love, nothing else is very memorable. Bucket is amazing on almost everything he touches of course. As for the NITL singles, Perhaps and Hard Skool absolutely sound closer to UYI than CD. Even the riff and overall music up until the stupid breakdown of Absurd are more like what I would expect of a punkish Guns song. Hell, even The General could have been an epic song if it actually went anywhere. If only someone could convince Axl to let a major producer take charge for an NITL album 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 11 hours ago, Free Bird said: But when I compare the NITL singles to the leaked ones then to me the official released versions are nearer to the GNR sound and no wonder because Slash’s sound was added. It’s not necessarily a quality thing. Yes that's true, but think the originals sound better despite the lower quality, imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 1 hour ago, DTV88 said: Hell, even The General could have been an epic song if it actually went anywhere. It'll be interesting to hear original with bucket/Robin and how it was made to sound. As I'm in the camp that it doesn't go anywhere and meanders along without purpose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 20 hours ago, Blackstar said: Question for native English speakers: As a non native speaker, although I think I have adequate comprehension skills in English, I sometimes look up a word or expression, even if I think I know what it means, to make sure I fully understand what is being said/written. So when Slash said (in the recent Classic Rock interview) that a new GN'R record has been "on the books" for a while ("and should start coming together"), I looked it up, e.g. here: But I saw that everybody in the other thread interpreted it as been "planned" or "thought about", and I was wondering if it could mean what one of the definitions in the dictionary says It's not about getting hopes up or anything like that (I don't do that - and I'm generally neither optimistic or pessimistic), just a genuine question On the books to me means, something on the list that needs to get ticked off (hopefully....or plans changed) 🙄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I think that the mixing on the recent singles have been horrible, however aside from the drumming on Hard School I like the actual new instrumental parts for all the new songs across the board. I enjoy Slash's work on Hard Skool and Perhaps way more than the previous ones and as a result I tend go listen to those way more than the previous versions nowadays With The General, I would be curious to hear the earlier versions however I can't imagine as a composition they are much different, at the most some different guitar fills/outro solo and a much less compressed sounding mix if I was a betting man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 2020_Intensions Posted May 4 Popular Post Share Posted May 4 8 hours ago, DTV88 said: I mostly agree with you here. The original NuGuns versions absolutely sound more cohesive. Personally, I just don’t like Robin’s rather weak and uninspired solos. Just my opinion of course. Outside of This I Love, nothing else is very memorable. Bucket is amazing on almost everything he touches of course. As for the NITL singles, Perhaps and Hard Skool absolutely sound closer to UYI than CD. Even the riff and overall music up until the stupid breakdown of Absurd are more like what I would expect of a punkish Guns song. Hell, even The General could have been an epic song if it actually went anywhere. If only someone could convince Axl to let a major producer take charge for an NITL album As far as Robin goes I have to say I completely disagree. His solo on This I Love is a masterpiece. But the rest of his work unmemerable? Street of Dreams, ChiDem, There Was a Time, Better ... Man those solos are so amazing and melodic. His impression is all over that album, just as much as Bucket's. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyVinyard Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, 2020_Intensions said: As far as Robin goes I have to say I completely disagree. His solo on This I Love is a masterpiece. But the rest of his work unmemerable? Street of Dreams, ChiDem, There Was a Time, Better ... Man those solos are so amazing and melodic. His impression is all over that album, just as much as Bucket's. 100% I would add Perhaps to that list as well. Melodic, amazing solo. I remember listening to it over and over when it first leaked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 8 hours ago, DannyVinyard said: 100% I would add Perhaps to that list as well. Melodic, amazing solo. I remember listening to it over and over when it first leaked. Yeah, I was just talking strictly what was officially released. If you include the leaks, there's even more! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 5/3/2024 at 1:24 AM, Blackstar said: Question for native English speakers: As a non native speaker, although I think I have adequate comprehension skills in English, I sometimes look up a word or expression, even if I think I know what it means, to make sure I fully understand what is being said/written. So when Slash said (in the recent Classic Rock interview) that a new GN'R record has been "on the books" for a while ("and should start coming together"), I looked it up, e.g. here: But I saw that everybody in the other thread interpreted it as been "planned" or "thought about", and I was wondering if it could mean what one of the definitions in the dictionary says It's not about getting hopes up or anything like that (I don't do that - and I'm generally neither optimistic or pessimistic), just a genuine question It's a weird choice of phrase for what he is talking about. You would normally hear the term in business. For example if you had a company and i was "On the books" it would mean I was employed by you, in the sense that my name and details are in your company's paper work and documents ect. In the context it's used here though I agree with @janrichmond. It's another way of saying what he has already said before. I wouldnt read too much into it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 10 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: As far as Robin goes I have to say I completely disagree. His solo on This I Love is a masterpiece. But the rest of his work unmemerable? Street of Dreams, ChiDem, There Was a Time, Better ... Man those solos are so amazing and melodic. His impression is all over that album, just as much as Bucket's. I hear what you’re saying, I just don’t see his work as up to par with Slash. Most of his solos seemed fairly predictable. Melodic? Yes, absolutely and TIL is a really good solo! Maybe I just never fully accepted him because he wasn’t Slash or Izzy and Axl was so fucking hard headed that he kept the band name for his solo work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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