Slugworth Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 13 hours ago, AxlRQ93 said: HS sounds like a cheaply made demo. It sounds like that because that's exactly what it is. Very little thought or effort was put into these songs, even the so called big guns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketan Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 13 hours ago, AxlRQ93 said: Adler prob wouldn’t have worked for illusion… Didn't Adler write most of the drums for the Illusion albums? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoMw94 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 20 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Full respect to Josh, but he's ultimately a guy who recorded a bunch of demos. He never played live with the band and outside of oh my god didn't appear on anything official, he cannot be compared with people that actually played the back catalogue. We may as well include Dave Abruzzese in the list while we're at it. As for best to worst... I don't know, certain things each drummer does are favourites of mine, including Frank. I don't see why it has to be a competition. But, Frank is not a terrible drummer or a terrible fit for gnr. People act like Brain was playing faithful versions of the old gnr songs, he was not he took equal liberties and sometimes it was really cool and other times it wasn't. I could say that about Matt too, or Steven. None of them are perfect drummers. The best comment anyone has ever made about drummers on this forum. As I've said before, counting Josh just makes no sense. We know he's a good drummer, but a good Guns N' Roses drummer? We never heard him play the back catalogue, he never played a single show. And with the others, they all played their own material greatly, but weren't a perfect fit for anything else. Frank is, for me, the best middle ground of the ones that came before him. In a show you want a cohesive thing from start to finish. He blends all eras nicely into a decent sounding set. He doesn't deserve the shit he gets here – if he does, Brain deserves the same, but he's on a pedestal here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 9 hours ago, oneway23 said: My biggest issue with Frank is that he's got a leaden kick drum foot. He's a powerful drummer, but, he's lumbering and straight-forward, not swinging nor groovy at ALL. Kinda like the difference between Bill Ward and Vinny Appice, if you're a Sabbath fan. Or Sorum Vs Adler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 14 hours ago, AxlRQ93 said: HS sounds like a cheaply made demo. Bands that are purposely low fi sound richer than it. The gtrs sound midi and Axl sounds processed to death And its just not a good song anyway. Gnr for kids, I can't take it seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 hours ago, DoMw94 said: The best comment anyone has ever made about drummers on this forum. As I've said before, counting Josh just makes no sense. We know he's a good drummer, but a good Guns N' Roses drummer? We never heard him play the back catalogue, he never played a single show. And with the others, they all played their own material greatly, but weren't a perfect fit for anything else. Frank is, for me, the best middle ground of the ones that came before him. In a show you want a cohesive thing from start to finish. He blends all eras nicely into a decent sounding set. He doesn't deserve the shit he gets here – if he does, Brain deserves the same, but he's on a pedestal here. I agree about Frank, but we did get Josh’s drums in that 1999 SCOM from the Big Daddy movie. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Or Sorum Vs Adler Great point! Sorum at least had that Nigel Olsson/human metronome thing going for him as a pretty unique attribute, and he was as powerful as a galloping horse when he was in his prime. Frank is...a serviceable replacement. Nothing wrong with making a living doing that. Thousands do it. I sure wish I could! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, oneway23 said: Great point! Sorum at least had that Nigel Olsson/human metronome thing going for him as a pretty unique attribute, and he was as powerful as a galloping horse when he was in his prime. Frank is...a serviceable replacement. Nothing wrong with making a living doing that. Thousands do it. I sure wish I could! We all would! Who want a comfy job doing that you dreamed of as a kid? More power to Frank! ...but still sort out those fills in Don't cry and November Rain😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 51 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: ...but still sort out those fills in Don't cry and November Rain😄 Thanks for the laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dummy Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I was suprised to see today that IRS was my most played spotify song this year with 81 times. My top 5 was all ChiDem songs IRS is not even close to being a favorite of mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmus1 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 IRS would benefit from Slash and Duff's feel more than most of ChiDem imo. But it's also one of my least favorite "final" versions on the album versus the demos, so that's probably not a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 If there is no music video after the next album, we shall make one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, Skamos66 said: If there is no music video after the next album, we shall make one Skamos don't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Just now, Live Like a Suicide said: Skamos don't. 2010 Axl Face Morphing "Monsters" music video canceled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skamos66 Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 I give GNR Creative Team permission to use that as the tour backing graphics though, Fernando DM me lets work something out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4NNY Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 14 hours ago, Skamos66 said: If there is no music video after the next album, we shall make one Is he morphing in to Pennywise there? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020_Intensions Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 Zzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfacelessturtle Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, DoMw94 said: The best comment anyone has ever made about drummers on this forum. As I've said before, counting Josh just makes no sense. We know he's a good drummer, but a good Guns N' Roses drummer? We never heard him play the back catalogue, he never played a single show. And with the others, they all played their own material greatly, but weren't a perfect fit for anything else. Frank is, for me, the best middle ground of the ones that came before him. In a show you want a cohesive thing from start to finish. He blends all eras nicely into a decent sounding set. He doesn't deserve the shit he gets here – if he does, Brain deserves the same, but he's on a pedestal here. I think Sorum would sound amazing on the CD material. Much better than Frank. Is that a face morph into Ron Perlman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonizedmind Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 3:02 AM, evilfacelessturtle said: I think Sorum would sound amazing on the CD material. Much better than Frank. Is that a face morph into Ron Perlman? Hellboy!!! 👿 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 On 11/28/2023 at 4:31 PM, DoMw94 said: The best comment anyone has ever made about drummers on this forum. As I've said before, counting Josh just makes no sense. We know he's a good drummer, but a good Guns N' Roses drummer? We never heard him play the back catalogue, he never played a single show. And with the others, they all played their own material greatly, but weren't a perfect fit for anything else. Frank is, for me, the best middle ground of the ones that came before him. In a show you want a cohesive thing from start to finish. He blends all eras nicely into a decent sounding set. He doesn't deserve the shit he gets here – if he does, Brain deserves the same, but he's on a pedestal here. Brain is definitely the better drummer, dude is fantastic behind the kit but Frank does a great job too and probably fits in with Slash and Duff better. I mean anyone questioning Franks talent only needs to know that Danny fucking Carey, one of the greatest drummers of all time has invited Frank up on stage to play with him multiple times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Bitchisback said: Brain is definitely the better drummer, dude is fantastic behind the kit but Frank does a great job too and probably fits in with Slash and Duff better. I mean anyone questioning Franks talent only needs to know that Danny fucking Carey, one of the greatest drummers of all time has invited Frank up on stage to play with him multiple times. It's not about questioning the talent. Last time I visited a GNR gig his drumming was the weakest link imo. He may be an amazing drummer but his style doesn't fit for GNR if you ask me. I agree that over the years they fixed sone issues and it's not that annoying anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bumcheecksmcghee Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: It's not about questioning the talent. Last time I visited a GNR gig his drumming was the weakest link imo. He may be an amazing drummer but his style doesn't fit for GNR if you ask me. I agree that over the years they fixed sone issues and it's not that annoying anymore Your post lost all cred with, "his drumming was the weakest link" The singer sounds like mickey mouse an can barely breathe on stage. Frank was the 2nd weakest lin. Fixed it for ya 😀 👍 Edited December 3, 2023 by bumcheecksmcghee 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bitchisback said: Brain is definitely the better drummer, dude is fantastic behind the kit but Frank does a great job too and probably fits in with Slash and Duff better. I mean anyone questioning Franks talent only needs to know that Danny fucking Carey, one of the greatest drummers of all time has invited Frank up on stage to play with him multiple times. this other talented dude thinks that this guy I don't really think much of is talented/a cool guy. Not much of an argument imho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said: Your post lost all cred with, "his drumming was the weakest link" The singer sounds like mickey mouse an can barely breathe on stage. Frank was the 2nd weakest lin. Fixed it for ya 😀 👍 I'd agree if I said that I watched videos but to me, being there, live in person, it was Frank who sounded worst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rindmelon Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 Those of you who remember who SP1at is may find this interesting. http://www.gnrevolution.com/img/noav.jpg sp1at Rep: 43 Prior to all the lawsuit stuff, the latest from GN'R was all positive. There is new, the beginnings of new GN'R material that is not related to CD, there. There was also wording that some historic older material was possible. Slash is expecting this later next year. I asked though about his previous assertions that there was an album for all the post CD material that had been release, and there was no response. So, I don't know. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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