Slash claims ‘Guns N’ Roses’ would’ve been ‘canceled’ today: ‘Glad we didn’t have the internet back then’

[Original]

No doubt.  Snowflakes would have cancelled them in 10 seconds.  - https://www.foxnews.com/media/slash-claims-guns-n-roses-wouldve-been-canceled-today-glad-we-didnt-have-internet-back-then

[allwaystired]

He's not wrong on that one. Times have changed. Probably for the better, overall. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by allwaystired

[alfierose]

Probably for the best but young Axl let loose on facebook or twitter would have been very special indeed. 

A few years ago one of the regular posters in the Women's Thread mocked up some pretend facebook beefs between young GNR which were funny.

[Spike Killer]

I don't know if the internet can be blamed entirely.   If anything, there might be lessons to be gained from how Guns N" Roses handled the print press and the endless articles about the band - in today's internet environment.

I wasn't that old back then.  Based on rants / Get In the Ring - GNR were tabloid fodder, right?  They managed the relationship as well as can be.  Thirty years removed, does anyone really remember the grocery store trash magazines?

[allwaystired]

1 minute ago, Spike Killer said:

I don't know if the internet can be blamed entirely.   If anything, there might be lessons to be gained from how Guns N" Roses handled the print press and the endless articles about the band - in today's internet environment.

I wasn't that old back then.  Based on rants / Get In the Ring - GNR were tabloid fodder, right?  They managed the relationship as well as can be.  Thirty years removed, does anyone really remember the grocery store trash magazines?

I have to admit- part of their appeal was all that sort of stuff. 

I'm not sure, without that stuff, their appeal would have been so exciting to kids like me, if we're bing honest. It worked both ways.

 

 

 

 

[mystery]

Having a phone in your pocket thats basically a computer with built in camera is a game changer. Some of the crazy stuff they were doing thats now legend would be caught on camera.

There was much more privacy before we were connected 24/7 and rock stars were much more mysterious. Now Axl lets us know what he ate for breakfast.

[Ratam]

It Slash claims is now in everywhere news.

[jamillos]

Oh absolutely. They couldn’t even come up with the same lyrics nowadays, let alone the same behaviour. Not if they wanted to be all over the media and have the same impact like they had in their prime. Then again, they probably wouldn’t give a shit. And we probably wouldn’t know they existed. 
It’s almost funny how it’s all shifted, isn’t it. I mean, the problems are the same (even worse), let’s not fool ourselves. But the public perception is now different, and there’s a huge game of pretence. But the attempt to control people behind it all, I think, is more and more visible each day. 
There are some nice things about it too, sure. People should be equal etc., by all means. The trouble is, we’re not there yet. We’re in the first stage, where nice ideas are taken, twisted and turned upside down, and used for nefarious means. Same with the green politics and other stuff. Deception, scam, one after another. 

Look, it’s 7 am here, and I’m only slowly working on my second coffee, ok? 

[mystery]

If the internet were around then we would have had footage of the Spaghetti Incident in 4K.

[Rovim]

1 hour ago, mystery said:

If the internet were around then we would have had footage of the Spaghetti Incident in 4K.

would have been fantastic. Or high res footage of a fucked up Slash running away butt naked from tiny imaginary predator-like creatures on a spa resort.

Edited February 17, 2023 by Rovim

[SoulMonster]

10 minutes ago, Rovim said:

Or high res footage of a fucked up Slash running away butt naked from tiny imaginable predator-like creatures on a spa resort.

That's when he ran into/over a maid who would have pressed charges of assault if Goldstein hadn't bribed their way out of it. 

[Gnrcane]

9 hours ago, jamillos said:

Oh absolutely. They couldn’t even come up with the same lyrics nowadays, let alone the same behaviour. Not if they wanted to be all over the media and have the same impact like they had in their prime. Then again, they probably wouldn’t give a shit. And we probably wouldn’t know they existed. 
It’s almost funny how it’s all shifted, isn’t it. I mean, the problems are the same (even worse), let’s not fool ourselves. But the public perception is now different, and there’s a huge game of pretence. But the attempt to control people behind it all, I think, is more and more visible each day. 
There are some nice things about it too, sure. People should be equal etc., by all means. The trouble is, we’re not there yet. We’re in the first stage, where nice ideas are taken, twisted and turned upside down, and used for nefarious means. Same with the green politics and other stuff. Deception, scam, one after another. 

Look, it’s 7 am here, and I’m only slowly working on my second coffee, ok? 

I don't know about the lyrics.  Have you seen the lyrics in current hip hop songs?  Other than OIAM, I don't think any of GNR's lyrics were any worse.

[Rovim]

1 hour ago, Gnrcane said:

I don't know about the lyrics.  Have you seen the lyrics in current hip hop songs?  Other than OIAM, I don't think any of GNR's lyrics were any worse.

can't do now what they did then. Axl Rose is not a rapper. He had his faults and it reflected in his music like in OIAM.  Great tune. One of my favorites.

[Spiritual_Chaos]

On 2/16/2023 at 8:25 PM, Original said:

 Snowflakes would have cancelled them in 10 seconds.

The kind of people using the term "snowflakes".

[rockphantom]

I miss the pre-internet days. During the "Golden Era", the only other GNR fans I knew were kids at my school. We didn't have to deal with possessive people who have an issue with fans freely sharing live recordings, and in-turn take the fun out of being a GNR fan.

[Stress Fracture]

Most of their peers were cancelled by grunge anyway.

[Nintari]

I'm not endorsing Kid Rock here, but I think with his song, Don't Tell Me How to Live, he kind of proved what most of us have known all along: you can't cancel people. If Guns N Roses wanted to release One In A Million today, they could. Maybe their record label would drop them, but they could just record their own music in their own studio and release it themselves. No one can stop anyone from saying or doing anything within the law. Cancel culture has always been a sham. It's nothing but a slew of mentally disturbed people with fucked up childhoods and all sorts of mood/chemical disorders and complexes using the guise of social progress to be dicks to those whom they feel have it better than they do. It's about revenge and resentment and nothing else, and the first massive company, or movie studio, or television station that calls them out on it by not doing their bidding is going to be the first domino to the woke's downfall.

Edited February 22, 2023 by Nintari

[Fanboy]

young Axl vs. Facebook / Twitter / cancel cult would be a curious thing to see.
They tried to cancel Eminem, he answered with a song.

[axlfan88]

On 2/16/2023 at 8:46 PM, allwaystired said:

He's not wrong on that one. Times have changed. Probably for the better, overall. 

For the worse. Censorship is always bad.

[hollywood_democracy]

2 hours ago, axlfan88 said:

For the worse. Censorship is always bad.

Look up what censorship is. Canceling someone isn't censoring them. It's more like blacklisting them. They are still free to speak uncensored all they want. 

[Stay.Of.Execution]

Is cancel culture even a thing, or is it just a word made up by - mostly conservatives/right wings - to complain about people not being able to say/do anything they want without getting some kind of backlash? are there examples of people who got "cancelled" for no good reason?

[jamillos]

6 hours ago, hollywood_democracy said:

Look up what censorship is. Canceling someone isn't censoring them. It's more like blacklisting them. They are still free to speak uncensored all they want. 

You’re right, but they’re close to each other, these two things. You get blacklisted, and while you still can say what you want, your voice will get to 10% of the audience you used to have. And all that just because some brainwashed bastard thought you shouldn’t be saying certain things since they are a no-no these days. Fuck that, censorship, and PC. 

[©GnrPersia]

Fuck PC + Censorship!

Police and hooray for tolerance!s, that's right 
Get outta my way
Don't need to buy none of your 
Gold chains today
Now don't need no bracelets 
Clamped in front of my back
Just need my ticket 'till then
Won't you cut me some slack

Immigrants and fagots
They make no sense to me
They come to our country 
And think they'll do as they please
Like start some mini-Iran
Or spread some fucking disease
And they talk so many God damn ways
It's all Greek to me

Edit: The forum converts N word to "hooray for tolerance" lol

Edited February 23, 2023 by ©GnrPersia

[axlfan88]

6 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said:

Is cancel culture even a thing, or is it just a word made up by - mostly conservatives/right wings - to complain about people not being able to say/do anything they want without getting some kind of backlash? are there examples of people who got "cancelled" for no good reason?

They tried to cancel JK Rowling for no good reason. Cancel culture is a form of fascism (or communism), it's based on hatred.

[Nice Boy]

They were cancelled though

Some Promoters didn’t want them because of OIAM etc, some people refused to listen to them, other bands didn’t want to tour with them, journalists slagged them off, etc etc