Miden34 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 I also think they should save state of grace for a new album. that could be a HELLA good song redone with slash and duff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) How sure are we that the guitar solo towards the end of TG is Slash? It could be Richard or Bucket. Edited October 29, 2023 by Sweersa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden34 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 State of grace fits everything bach said general would be. that loud high pitch vocal towards the end of the song. its a longish song. i think we got duped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: I like Slash’s first Monsters solo. The outro is more impressive, but there is some cool multi tracked leads in the first one His first solo is my favorite of all the solos he has done on the reworked CD stuff, it is simple and bluesy and has some repeated licks that make it seem just as much a secondary hook as it is a solo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arnuld Posted October 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Miden34 said: State of grace fits everything bach said general would be. that loud high pitch vocal towards the end of the song. its a longish song. i think we got duped Bach could have easily confused the tracks. I agree the General is not exactly like Bachs description. And I cannot even begin to imagine how it relates to estranged in Axl’s mind. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Just now, Arnuld said: Bach could have easily confused the tracks. I agree the General is not exactly like Bachs description. And I cannot even begin to imagine how it relates to estranged in Axl’s mind. Yeah that’s probably what happened. Hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted October 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Sweersa said: How sure are we that the guitar solo towards the end of TG is Slash? It could be Richard or Bucket. I am fairly certain, at this point in time especially after listening to it on good headphones most of these 2 days and not my phone which is where my first listen occured, that it is Slash on all lead parts save for the second half of the outro solo of Monsters which is Fortus TG has Slash's signature wah sound and listening closely the runs are very Slash-esque especially when comparing to the Slash-isms I heard live a few weeks ago Edited October 29, 2023 by WhazUp 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-fukaji Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I am fairly certain, at this point in time especially after listening to it om good headphones most of these 2 days that it is Slash on all lead parts save for the second half of the outro solo which is Fortus TG has Slash's signature wah sound and listening closely the runs are very Slash-esque especially when comparing to the Slash-isms I heard live a few weeks ago they've done this sort of crash edting before so it wouldnt surprse me but 4:06 to 4:09 of The General sounds like Buckethead, the finish to the solo too before it goes into Monster, but then the rest could be anything, fully ready to be wrong though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davisp Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) I'm on vacation in Vietnam right now. Listening to Monsters and seeing all those communist uniforms/symbols really gives me CD vibes. i'll always connect that trip to these two song. (yeah, I know Vietnam != China 😂) Edited October 29, 2023 by davisp 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miden34 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 trust me... its amazing. Belfast blues by him too is incredible. dog eat dog. government. he has so many good songs but only two full length studio albums i believe. maybe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DownUnderScott said: I think what this “new” music demonstrates is how much Slash and Duff have bent over and spread their cheeks for the almighty dollar. This really is not their kind of music and after all these years Axl still is the Master of puppets. I dunno, replace the electronic drums on Monsters with Matt Sorum and that could easily be a VR track with Scott singing the lower parts. I don't think it is hard to imagine the concept that Slash has matured since he left GNR in '96 and is open to stuff. Its still heavy drop D rock music - it isn't like this is genre hopping that much, you know? Even The General, it has more electronic drums than something Slash would do solo but the song itself is still basically just a rock song with lots of distorted vocal effects and sitar samples Edited October 29, 2023 by WhazUp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twainwreck88 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 How come the leaks haven’t been picked up by any news sites?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, twainwreck88 said: How come the leaks haven’t been picked up by any news sites?? Because really only a few hundred people care to be honest. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairieboy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) My latest random thoughts… If you’re expecting a poppy ballad, this is not your song sweet child. If Coma was the soundtrack of an estranged past, prepare for a bitter sweet reunion. “I was there for you” E Edited October 29, 2023 by prairieboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanklersreturn17 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 The first thing that came to my mind when this title leaked was, why the fuck is it not called "the General n' Monsters"? This has gotta be a first in gnr history (not including covers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted October 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2023 19 hours ago, agustingloger said: I don't understand why everyone hates HS here. Sounds like classic GN'R song . Appetite kind of with 2021 modern sound production. Great riff killer vocals. I don't get it either, I love HS. Great straightfoward rock song. The mix isn't even that bad, it's consistent with most modern rock records. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, MaskingApathy said: I don't get it either, I love HS. Great straightfoward rock song. The mix isn't even that bad, it's consistent with most modern rock records. Ditto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr-fukaji Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 (edited) I can't stand the newer intro to Hard Skool, it doesn't do the riff any favours when it kicks in. The stupid bell too! ahhh!!! otherwise it's a fine rocker, kind of prefer the Rough Mix version though Edited October 29, 2023 by mr-fukaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairieboy Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 The verses of Monsters seems to be more about a jilted lover to me, and not child abuse like The General. My interpretation is Axl acknowledging that he unwillingly brought his “Monsters” into the ill-fated Stephanie relationship. [Verse 1] A tour-de-force of an evil old passion A broken heart that was out of fashion Dynamic duo, in your big attraction My early warning was your satan laughing [Chorus] I was there for you It's all I could do Oh but it's over now Oh but it's over now [Verse 2] You stole my soul with the devil's romancing All alone in your bedroom, dancing Thought I could feel somebody worth having But in the end I guess you're good for the damning 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 20 hours ago, agustingloger said: I don't understand why everyone hates HS here. Sounds like classic GN'R song . Appetite kind of with 2021 modern sound production. Great riff killer vocals. Just a lot of negative people here in general. HS sounds like it came off of the the illusions, and if it did everyone would probably love it. People have issue with the bell at the beginning I guess. While far from my favorite GNR track I enjoy it. It's a fun rocker. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Route66 Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 Fortus for sure on the outro solo's The bass line is 100% Stinson wrote but played by Duff. Slash has added riff's. I am not keen on this tbh. I preferred the orchestral version they used as a concert intro. Hopefully in december we hear a better version. This was leaked by the studio in europe to try and kill interest after GnR said the mix was crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 2 hours ago, WhazUp said: This surreal feeling of finally hearing the cell phone leak is on the feeling I felt when HS leaked and we finally heard the rest of that mythical Checkmate clip And having Slash on it is the cherry on top For real. I could have never imagined when we first heard the cell phone clip years back that we’d someday finally hear the full song, but with Slash. Hearing “Checkmate” was bananas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourMother'sDruthers Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 38 minutes ago, mr-fukaji said: I can't stand the newer intro to Hard Skool, it doesn't do the riff any favours when it kicks in. The stupid bell too! ahhh!!! otherwise it's a fine rocker, kind of prefer the Rough Mix version though The intro on the original leak was actually the best part of the song imo. 14 minutes ago, Route66 said: Fortus for sure on the outro solo's The bass line is 100% Stinson wrote but played by Duff. Slash has added riff's. I am not keen on this tbh. I preferred the orchestral version they used as a concert intro. Hopefully in december we hear a better version. This was leaked by the studio in europe to try and kill interest after GnR said the mix was crap. Any sources for this info or just speculation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GNRRHCP98 Posted October 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2023 4 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I disagree. Slash loves creepy, unbridled horror shit. He may like Monsters, The General and even Absurd more than you think. He GENUINELY looks like he’s very much into Absurd when playing it live. I reckon it will be the same if/when “The General and Monsters” are played live. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 22frets Posted October 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2023 1 minute ago, GNRRHCP98 said: He GENUINELY looks like he’s very much into Absurd when playing it live. Probably dedicates it to Perla 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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