AtariLegend Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 33 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: We don't know if Monsters will be in fact the official title yet. It could be just a shortened version of the title, much like the band calls WTTJ as just "Jungle" on the setlist. This. The title probably changed a 100 times through the years and could change a 100 times before (if it ever gets an official release). It's over 20 plus years old at least. It also more likely than not sounded radically different in it's original incarnation - like the changes Silkworms (ABSURB), Hardskool (Hard School) went through. Maybe it's more Perhaps level changes, but that track probably suited Slash and Duff a bit more than these. The version with Buckethead or the pre-Bucket version for all we know could have been twice as long with an extended guitar solo. Same goes for The General, it's a shame we can only hope for leaks to help answer these questions, but with the age of AI - we might never know for sure within a few years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfr20179 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) Refresh my memory if so, but was it ever figured out how the person who leaked TG and Monsters got their hands on them (the day in which the “Perhaps” vinyl was supposed to drop?) Especially in finished states… Edited September 11 by gnfr20179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 12 hours ago, Voodoochild said: We don't know if Monsters will be in fact the official title yet. It could be just a shortened version of the title, much like the band calls WTTJ as just "Jungle" on the setlist. This is also true. but those kind of decisions take Axl decades to decide. so the wait goes on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollster42 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, gnfr20179 said: Refresh my memory if so, but was it ever figured out how the person who leaked TG and Monsters got their hands on them (the day in which the “Perhaps” vinyl was supposed to drop?) Especially in finished states… I thought it was just some pissed off employee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfr20179 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ollster42 said: I thought it was just some pissed off employee Interesting… I’ll never forget hopping on here that morning, seeing the boards buzzing, and then immediately getting onto SoundCloud before they pulled them. Good times Edited September 11 by gnfr20179 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 9/11/2024 at 7:51 AM, Ollster42 said: I thought it was just some pissed off employee I still think it was someone from the Swedish studio that got both tracks, then forwarded them to a fan that later leaked the songs when the band failed to release that Perhaps' EP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On 9/10/2024 at 4:10 PM, Spoon87 said: I'd even go so far as that rumoured 1999 album, up to versions of 2002. These tracks would be killer. I'm really not that in the know anymore when it comes to the timeline of the earliest leaks but I do remember for example that really early leak of IRS and man, that song really had a mean edge to it. It was blazing sharp riffage, perfectly accompanying Axl's mean vocals. Same with that early TWAT which was a total mood, a really dark vibe (and I love the album version ,too). I am not even going to start talking about The Blues. What we got afterwards... Didn’t we basically get the 1999 album via the locker leaks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Finally got around to listening to The General on vinyl. I thought it sounded really good (much better than digital versions). Was almost refreshing. However, felt incomplete without Monsters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfa75 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, Coma16 said: Finally got around to listening to The General on vinyl. I thought it sounded really good (much better than digital versions). Was almost refreshing. However, felt incomplete without Monsters. Also the Japanese CD version sounds much better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I guess I'm in the minority, but Monsters and The General have completely different vibes to me. I never feel the urge to listen to them back to back like so many others prefer to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: I guess I'm in the minority, but Monsters and The General have completely different vibes to me. I never feel the urge to listen to them back to back like so many others prefer to. I think it’s just the idea of one great epic song full of rhythm changes 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post betterman Posted September 19 Popular Post Share Posted September 19 They do fit together, especially with the string arrangement - should have also used some of the strings as a cinematic intro to the songs the General is a good song and I think more people will understand it with time... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 I think the general and monsters is a great 1 2 punch, they go very well together imho and are songs I still listen to and enjoy. I think maybe the general is not for everyone while monsters has more appeal to more listeners that are into Gn'R. maybe it's the Korn influence in the general or it's just not what the average old school Gn'R fan hoped for/expected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/19/2024 at 4:32 AM, Rovim said: I think the general and monsters is a great 1 2 punch, they go very well together imho and are songs I still listen to and enjoy. I think maybe the general is not for everyone while monsters has more appeal to more listeners that are into Gn'R. maybe it's the Korn influence in the general or it's just not what the average old school Gn'R fan hoped for/expected. I think Monsters has real potential to catch on, but then again…where? Radio? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2k Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/10/2024 at 5:12 PM, AtariLegend said: This. The title probably changed a 100 times through the years and could change a 100 times before (if it ever gets an official release). It's over 20 plus years old at least. It also more likely than not sounded radically different in it's original incarnation - like the changes Silkworms (ABSURB), Hardskool (Hard School) went through. Maybe it's more Perhaps level changes, but that track probably suited Slash and Duff a bit more than these. The version with Buckethead or the pre-Bucket version for all we know could have been twice as long with an extended guitar solo. Same goes for The General, it's a shame we can only hope for leaks to help answer these questions, but with the age of AI - we might never know for sure within a few years. We know what the original monsters sounds like to an extent. We have that cell recording of it. It sounds very similar just more hip hopy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davisp Posted yesterday at 11:55 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:55 AM I let AI create artwork for Monsters. The song came out while I was in Vietnam... so I'll forever link the song to that country. Thats why I went with the communist style. the white thing in the back should be a monster 🤷♂️ feel free to share it if you like it. its AI anyhow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:04 PM On 9/19/2024 at 1:21 AM, alfa75 said: Also the Japanese CD version sounds much better. I was about to say that. Been listening to my Japanese Perhaps and The General CD in my vehicle. The General is still way louder than Perhaps, and I can still hear the clipping but overall it sounds better than the leak at least. It’s growing on me. I hope the official Monsters or whatever it will be titled is mixed and mastered better. Such a song deserves that, but it’s already gone through hell without Buckethead and/or Robin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 4 hours ago, Sweersa said: I was about to say that. Been listening to my Japanese Perhaps and The General CD in my vehicle. The General is still way louder than Perhaps, and I can still hear the clipping but overall it sounds better than the leak at least. It’s growing on me. I hope the official Monsters or whatever it will be titled is mixed and mastered better. Such a song deserves that, but it’s already gone through hell without Buckethead and/or Robin. Guitar work is absolutely fine in Monsters as is 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 19 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Guitar work is absolutely fine in Monsters as is 🤷♂️ Just nod and smile. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 48 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Guitar work is absolutely fine in Monsters as is 🤷♂️ Sure it's fine, but I'm not sure the bluesy approach fits the song that well. People are mocked for preferring the cellphone clip because it's mostly unintelligible, but the solo is clearly audible and I feel fits the song better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfr20179 Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Did anyone subscribe to Nightrain on here? The music boxes are supposed to start shipping this month… I’m curious to hear the ones with “TG” on them, and the ones with the mystery track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 17 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Guitar work is absolutely fine in Monsters as is 🤷♂️ It is great guitar work, but if I had to guess, the original leads by those who actually came up with the song would be even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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