F*ck Fear Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.Were you in Led Zeppelin?Is that you Plant?J/K I know what you mean,but what I was getting at,is that it's been so long now,since this band has been called Guns N' Roses,that why change it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.And you must be Robert Plant? He could probably get away with that, but you certainly could not. I suggest not opening your mouth if you don't know or understand what other people are talking about, much less what you yourself talk about. As for the whole GNR/Axl name thing, as if this hasn't been beaten with a stick a million times now, the bottom line is this:- All of the other guys walked away from the band. Plain and simple. By the time they left, GNR was more business. It happens to all things that attain greatness. It's all about money. If those dopes signed some contract leaving the name to Axl in the event they walk away, they shouldn't have been so doped up to where they couldn't make good business decisions. Maybe they just didn't want to be a part of some big, commercial circus... IE... pawns for the white collars up in corporate. Great. Whatever. They left. Their choice. Live with it. - Axl stayed and accepted the responsibility. Furthermore, everyone writes about Izzy this, Slash that. Look, I love those guys. I agree they were important parts of those early days and getting Guns off the ground. It sucked they all couldn't just get along. But at the end of the day when I look at the credits from those songs, whose name appears in 98% of them first and foremost... ROSE. He by far, statistically (given that data), was the mastermind behind everything... the 'Oz' behind the curtain directing the show. - GNR would not have become what it did w/o Axl Rose. Period. When people think of GNR, they think of Axl. When I think of U2, I think of Bono. Aerosmith... Steven Tyler. Appetite was a colloborated effort, sure. But Illusions? That was practically ALL AXL. GNR became his baby, like it or not, long before the original lineup disbanded. I accept Axl Rose as GNR as I accept Trent Reznor as NIN. If you don't like how I worded that because you can argue Trent IS NIN and always has been... well accept it this way... Axl needed a supporting cast to get off the ground with Appetite. After that, once he was exposed to the world, he no longer needed that supporting cast. It's a shame because that group was incredible, but you know what? Shit happens. Deal with it. Axl is GNR. Just like Reznor is NIN. - Consider this... Slash and the rest of the guys all left because they just wanted to keep putting out your run-of-the-mill blusey/rock album. SLASH took what became "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" to Axl and the rest of the guys and said THIS is the new GNR album. Axl understood it would have flopped and would have been the end of GNR as a commercial success. That demise began with the Illusions, despite good sales, with two albums full of redundant songs. We may have liked them, but they were no Appetite. The demise continued with TSI. Covers or not, that album sucks. Plain and simple. Another album full of B-sides from the Illusions sessions was not going to cut it. Axl understood that and wanted to evolve with the music scene... be more creative. The other guys didn't. So they cried like babies and left. You know what happened to them? When the money started running out they needed to hire a top-knotch front man and put out a rock album. That album, Contraband. It would have flopped 10 years ago, but today in the world of shitty alternative bands it did well. But only well. Now they need something to retire on and... what's that?! What is that they want to do?! A concept album?! Well tickle us pink and rub us down with KY Batman... they want to 'evolve' and do a 'concept album'. Maybe they get it now in their sobriety, well, at least Duff and Weiland. Another Contraband isn't going to cut it. They need to do something to stay ahead of the curve. Evolve. This all applied to GNR 10 years ago, and they ignored that. Since then, Axl has built a new supporting cast for his GNR vision. They've been working together longer than the original band. You may not want to accept them as GNR, but you know what? The people that don't really care about GNR or Axl Rose, about 95% of the radio listeners today, will consider Guns N' Roses this new lineup if they put out a kick ass record. Most won't even know who Slash was, or what the Illusions were. What's more? Maybe those of you who don't accept the 'new' band or Axl as GNR should hold judgement until you get the chance to hear the record. That's my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f**k_your_enemy Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.And you must be Robert Plant? He could probably get away with that, but you certainly could not. I suggest not opening your mouth if you don't know or understand what other people are talking about, much less what you yourself talk about. As for the whole GNR/Axl name thing, as if this hasn't been beaten with a stick a million times now, the bottom line is this:- All of the other guys walked away from the band. Plain and simple. By the time they left, GNR was more business. It happens to all things that attain greatness. It's all about money. If those dopes signed some contract leaving the name to Axl in the event they walk away, they shouldn't have been so doped up to where they couldn't make good business decisions. Maybe they just didn't want to be a part of some big, commercial circus... IE... pawns for the white collars up in corporate. Great. Whatever. They left. Their choice. Live with it. - Axl stayed and accepted the responsibility. Furthermore, everyone writes about Izzy this, Slash that. Look, I love those guys. I agree they were important parts of those early days and getting Guns off the ground. It sucked they all couldn't just get along. But at the end of the day when I look at the credits from those songs, whose name appears in 98% of them first and foremost... ROSE. He by far, statistically (given that data), was the mastermind behind everything... the 'Oz' behind the curtain directing the show. - GNR would not have become what it did w/o Axl Rose. Period. When people think of GNR, they think of Axl. When I think of U2, I think of Bono. Aerosmith... Steven Tyler. Appetite was a colloborated effort, sure. But Illusions? That was practically ALL AXL. GNR became his baby, like it or not, long before the original lineup disbanded. I accept Axl Rose as GNR as I accept Trent Reznor as NIN. If you don't like how I worded that because you can argue Trent IS NIN and always has been... well accept it this way... Axl needed a supporting cast to get off the ground with Appetite. After that, once he was exposed to the world, he no longer needed that supporting cast. It's a shame because that group was incredible, but you know what? Shit happens. Deal with it. Axl is GNR. Just like Reznor is NIN. - Consider this... Slash and the rest of the guys all left because they just wanted to keep putting out your run-of-the-mill blusey/rock album. SLASH took what became "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" to Axl and the rest of the guys and said THIS is the new GNR album. Axl understood it would have flopped and would have been the end of GNR as a commercial success. That demise began with the Illusions, despite good sales, with two albums full of redundant songs. We may have liked them, but they were no Appetite. The demise continued with TSI. Covers or not, that album sucks. Plain and simple. Another album full of B-sides from the Illusions sessions was not going to cut it. Axl understood that and wanted to evolve with the music scene... be more creative. The other guys didn't. So they cried like babies and left. You know what happened to them? When the money started running out they needed to hire a top-knotch front man and put out a rock album. That album, Contraband. It would have flopped 10 years ago, but today in the world of shitty alternative bands it did well. But only well. Now they need something to retire on and... what's that?! What is that they want to do?! A concept album?! Well tickle us pink and rub us down with KY Batman... they want to 'evolve' and do a 'concept album'. Maybe they get it now in their sobriety, well, at least Duff and Weiland. Another Contraband isn't going to cut it. They need to do something to stay ahead of the curve. Evolve. This all applied to GNR 10 years ago, and they ignored that. Since then, Axl has built a new supporting cast for his GNR vision. They've been working together longer than the original band. You may not want to accept them as GNR, but you know what? The people that don't really care about GNR or Axl Rose, about 95% of the radio listeners today, will consider Guns N' Roses this new lineup if they put out a kick ass record. Most won't even know who Slash was, or what the Illusions were. What's more? Maybe those of you who don't accept the 'new' band or Axl as GNR should hold judgement until you get the chance to hear the record. That's my two cents.EXCELLENT POST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.And you must be Robert Plant? He could probably get away with that, but you certainly could not. I suggest not opening your mouth if you don't know or understand what other people are talking about, much less what you yourself talk about. As for the whole GNR/Axl name thing, as if this hasn't been beaten with a stick a million times now, the bottom line is this:- All of the other guys walked away from the band. Plain and simple. By the time they left, GNR was more business. It happens to all things that attain greatness. It's all about money. If those dopes signed some contract leaving the name to Axl in the event they walk away, they shouldn't have been so doped up to where they couldn't make good business decisions. Maybe they just didn't want to be a part of some big, commercial circus... IE... pawns for the white collars up in corporate. Great. Whatever. They left. Their choice. Live with it. - Axl stayed and accepted the responsibility. Furthermore, everyone writes about Izzy this, Slash that. Look, I love those guys. I agree they were important parts of those early days and getting Guns off the ground. It sucked they all couldn't just get along. But at the end of the day when I look at the credits from those songs, whose name appears in 98% of them first and foremost... ROSE. He by far, statistically (given that data), was the mastermind behind everything... the 'Oz' behind the curtain directing the show. - GNR would not have become what it did w/o Axl Rose. Period. When people think of GNR, they think of Axl. When I think of U2, I think of Bono. Aerosmith... Steven Tyler. Appetite was a colloborated effort, sure. But Illusions? That was practically ALL AXL. GNR became his baby, like it or not, long before the original lineup disbanded. I accept Axl Rose as GNR as I accept Trent Reznor as NIN. If you don't like how I worded that because you can argue Trent IS NIN and always has been... well accept it this way... Axl needed a supporting cast to get off the ground with Appetite. After that, once he was exposed to the world, he no longer needed that supporting cast. It's a shame because that group was incredible, but you know what? Shit happens. Deal with it. Axl is GNR. Just like Reznor is NIN. - Consider this... Slash and the rest of the guys all left because they just wanted to keep putting out your run-of-the-mill blusey/rock album. SLASH took what became "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" to Axl and the rest of the guys and said THIS is the new GNR album. Axl understood it would have flopped and would have been the end of GNR as a commercial success. That demise began with the Illusions, despite good sales, with two albums full of redundant songs. We may have liked them, but they were no Appetite. The demise continued with TSI. Covers or not, that album sucks. Plain and simple. Another album full of B-sides from the Illusions sessions was not going to cut it. Axl understood that and wanted to evolve with the music scene... be more creative. The other guys didn't. So they cried like babies and left. You know what happened to them? When the money started running out they needed to hire a top-knotch front man and put out a rock album. That album, Contraband. It would have flopped 10 years ago, but today in the world of shitty alternative bands it did well. But only well. Now they need something to retire on and... what's that?! What is that they want to do?! A concept album?! Well tickle us pink and rub us down with KY Batman... they want to 'evolve' and do a 'concept album'. Maybe they get it now in their sobriety, well, at least Duff and Weiland. Another Contraband isn't going to cut it. They need to do something to stay ahead of the curve. Evolve. This all applied to GNR 10 years ago, and they ignored that. Since then, Axl has built a new supporting cast for his GNR vision. They've been working together longer than the original band. You may not want to accept them as GNR, but you know what? The people that don't really care about GNR or Axl Rose, about 95% of the radio listeners today, will consider Guns N' Roses this new lineup if they put out a kick ass record. Most won't even know who Slash was, or what the Illusions were. What's more? Maybe those of you who don't accept the 'new' band or Axl as GNR should hold judgement until you get the chance to hear the record. That's my two cents.Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revolver Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 if the band wouldn't be named Guns N' Roses our fav. band wouldn't still be alive... so we had to choose another fav. band so I think its okey Axl is keeping the name even if it is kind a like a cover band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.And you must be Robert Plant? He could probably get away with that, but you certainly could not. I suggest not opening your mouth if you don't know or understand what other people are talking about, much less what you yourself talk about. As for the whole GNR/Axl name thing, as if this hasn't been beaten with a stick a million times now, the bottom line is this:- All of the other guys walked away from the band. Plain and simple. By the time they left, GNR was more business. It happens to all things that attain greatness. It's all about money. If those dopes signed some contract leaving the name to Axl in the event they walk away, they shouldn't have been so doped up to where they couldn't make good business decisions. Maybe they just didn't want to be a part of some big, commercial circus... IE... pawns for the white collars up in corporate. Great. Whatever. They left. Their choice. Live with it. - Axl stayed and accepted the responsibility. Furthermore, everyone writes about Izzy this, Slash that. Look, I love those guys. I agree they were important parts of those early days and getting Guns off the ground. It sucked they all couldn't just get along. But at the end of the day when I look at the credits from those songs, whose name appears in 98% of them first and foremost... ROSE. He by far, statistically (given that data), was the mastermind behind everything... the 'Oz' behind the curtain directing the show. - GNR would not have become what it did w/o Axl Rose. Period. When people think of GNR, they think of Axl. When I think of U2, I think of Bono. Aerosmith... Steven Tyler. Appetite was a colloborated effort, sure. But Illusions? That was practically ALL AXL. GNR became his baby, like it or not, long before the original lineup disbanded. I accept Axl Rose as GNR as I accept Trent Reznor as NIN. If you don't like how I worded that because you can argue Trent IS NIN and always has been... well accept it this way... Axl needed a supporting cast to get off the ground with Appetite. After that, once he was exposed to the world, he no longer needed that supporting cast. It's a shame because that group was incredible, but you know what? Shit happens. Deal with it. Axl is GNR. Just like Reznor is NIN. - Consider this... Slash and the rest of the guys all left because they just wanted to keep putting out your run-of-the-mill blusey/rock album. SLASH took what became "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" to Axl and the rest of the guys and said THIS is the new GNR album. Axl understood it would have flopped and would have been the end of GNR as a commercial success. That demise began with the Illusions, despite good sales, with two albums full of redundant songs. We may have liked them, but they were no Appetite. The demise continued with TSI. Covers or not, that album sucks. Plain and simple. Another album full of B-sides from the Illusions sessions was not going to cut it. Axl understood that and wanted to evolve with the music scene... be more creative. The other guys didn't. So they cried like babies and left. You know what happened to them? When the money started running out they needed to hire a top-knotch front man and put out a rock album. That album, Contraband. It would have flopped 10 years ago, but today in the world of shitty alternative bands it did well. But only well. Now they need something to retire on and... what's that?! What is that they want to do?! A concept album?! Well tickle us pink and rub us down with KY Batman... they want to 'evolve' and do a 'concept album'. Maybe they get it now in their sobriety, well, at least Duff and Weiland. Another Contraband isn't going to cut it. They need to do something to stay ahead of the curve. Evolve. This all applied to GNR 10 years ago, and they ignored that. Since then, Axl has built a new supporting cast for his GNR vision. They've been working together longer than the original band. You may not want to accept them as GNR, but you know what? The people that don't really care about GNR or Axl Rose, about 95% of the radio listeners today, will consider Guns N' Roses this new lineup if they put out a kick ass record. Most won't even know who Slash was, or what the Illusions were. What's more? Maybe those of you who don't accept the 'new' band or Axl as GNR should hold judgement until you get the chance to hear the record. That's my two cents.so you mean that you should not do what you think is fun just do what every body else does and just make something you can get alot of cash from and ripping stupid kids mony off Axl uses just the GN'R name so his album can sell more Slash Duff and Izzy wanted to do something that was just fun but axl wanted to make something that could be a number 1 hit and get played on MTV and thay would have lasted alot longer if Axl's ego wasn't so fucking big and do songs like November Rain (even if I love the song but thay didn't need it as a band) If you start saying more shit about Axl you are Axl's butt liker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miniman Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 If he would have dropped it back in the early stages of Chinese Democracy it would have been fine by me...But now as he's toured under the name "Guns N' Roses",that's what this band is...It's Guns N' Roses,wether people like it or not.Well fine. I start touring with my band and call it Led Zeppelin then.And you must be Robert Plant? He could probably get away with that, but you certainly could not. I suggest not opening your mouth if you don't know or understand what other people are talking about, much less what you yourself talk about. As for the whole GNR/Axl name thing, as if this hasn't been beaten with a stick a million times now, the bottom line is this:- All of the other guys walked away from the band. Plain and simple. By the time they left, GNR was more business. It happens to all things that attain greatness. It's all about money. If those dopes signed some contract leaving the name to Axl in the event they walk away, they shouldn't have been so doped up to where they couldn't make good business decisions. Maybe they just didn't want to be a part of some big, commercial circus... IE... pawns for the white collars up in corporate. Great. Whatever. They left. Their choice. Live with it. - Axl stayed and accepted the responsibility. Furthermore, everyone writes about Izzy this, Slash that. Look, I love those guys. I agree they were important parts of those early days and getting Guns off the ground. It sucked they all couldn't just get along. But at the end of the day when I look at the credits from those songs, whose name appears in 98% of them first and foremost... ROSE. He by far, statistically (given that data), was the mastermind behind everything... the 'Oz' behind the curtain directing the show. - GNR would not have become what it did w/o Axl Rose. Period. When people think of GNR, they think of Axl. When I think of U2, I think of Bono. Aerosmith... Steven Tyler. Appetite was a colloborated effort, sure. But Illusions? That was practically ALL AXL. GNR became his baby, like it or not, long before the original lineup disbanded. I accept Axl Rose as GNR as I accept Trent Reznor as NIN. If you don't like how I worded that because you can argue Trent IS NIN and always has been... well accept it this way... Axl needed a supporting cast to get off the ground with Appetite. After that, once he was exposed to the world, he no longer needed that supporting cast. It's a shame because that group was incredible, but you know what? Shit happens. Deal with it. Axl is GNR. Just like Reznor is NIN. - Consider this... Slash and the rest of the guys all left because they just wanted to keep putting out your run-of-the-mill blusey/rock album. SLASH took what became "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere" to Axl and the rest of the guys and said THIS is the new GNR album. Axl understood it would have flopped and would have been the end of GNR as a commercial success. That demise began with the Illusions, despite good sales, with two albums full of redundant songs. We may have liked them, but they were no Appetite. The demise continued with TSI. Covers or not, that album sucks. Plain and simple. Another album full of B-sides from the Illusions sessions was not going to cut it. Axl understood that and wanted to evolve with the music scene... be more creative. The other guys didn't. So they cried like babies and left. You know what happened to them? When the money started running out they needed to hire a top-knotch front man and put out a rock album. That album, Contraband. It would have flopped 10 years ago, but today in the world of shitty alternative bands it did well. But only well. Now they need something to retire on and... what's that?! What is that they want to do?! A concept album?! Well tickle us pink and rub us down with KY Batman... they want to 'evolve' and do a 'concept album'. Maybe they get it now in their sobriety, well, at least Duff and Weiland. Another Contraband isn't going to cut it. They need to do something to stay ahead of the curve. Evolve. This all applied to GNR 10 years ago, and they ignored that. Since then, Axl has built a new supporting cast for his GNR vision. They've been working together longer than the original band. You may not want to accept them as GNR, but you know what? The people that don't really care about GNR or Axl Rose, about 95% of the radio listeners today, will consider Guns N' Roses this new lineup if they put out a kick ass record. Most won't even know who Slash was, or what the Illusions were. What's more? Maybe those of you who don't accept the 'new' band or Axl as GNR should hold judgement until you get the chance to hear the record. That's my two cents.so you mean that you should not do what you think is fun just do what every body else does and just make something you can get alot of cash from and ripping stupid kids mony off Axl uses just the GN'R name so his album can sell more Slash Duff and Izzy wanted to do something that was just fun but axl wanted to make something that could be a number 1 hit and get played on MTV and thay would have lasted alot longer if Axl's ego wasn't so fucking big and do songs like November Rain (even if I love the song but thay didn't need it as a band) If you start saying more shit about Axl you are Axl's butt liker Bottom line, everyone else left on their own, except for Matt.So everyone should quit whining And I guess you'll be licking Axl's ass too, seeing how Slash is up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrari Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 if the band wouldn't be named Guns N' Roses our fav. band wouldn't still be alive... so we had to choose another fav. band so I think its okey Axl is keeping the name even if it is kind a like a cover bandAxl can keep the name if he wants to. But it won't work. Most of people despise this kind of swindle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funral Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 this topic again?.... Moderator, please lock this topic down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AxlRox Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 LOOK FOR FUCKS SAKE... WHY CANT VELVET REVOLVER JUST QUIT.. AND THE ORGINAL GNR GET BACK TOO TOGETHER... IM SO FRUSTRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY IS EVERYTIN SO FUCKING COMPLICATED AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHfeel better now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold_as_ice Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 Why should he change it? GN'R will always be GN'R as long as Axl is trying to acheve something new.Keith Moon made his point but it just wouldn't be the same if CD came out and the band name on the cover is W. Axl Rose and friends. He should keep the name!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle.yeah but the other people left leaving Axl the only member of guns n roses in the band besides dIzzy and Axl replaced the members that left, simple as that, he has every right to still have the name. Edited January 19, 2006 by Axl-rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebelRose89 Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle.yeah but the other people left leaving Axl the only member of guns n roses in the band besides dIzzy and Axl replaced the members that left, simple as that, he has every right to still have the name.agreed,the pieces of this puzzle were changing right from the begining till today. It's just, some have been there longer than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold_as_ice Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle.I couldn't have said it better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjakalen Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Axl was "the" pieceof the puzzla... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle.I'm not disputing that. My point still stands - because those other people left - why must Axl change their name because of decisions someone else made.R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patience 4 Axl Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I fail to understand why Axl should have to the change the name because of the actions of other people. Other people chose to leave - Axl stuck with it, he keeps the name.The combined actions of those other people is what made that band. Axl is not the band, he's merely one piece of the puzzle.yeah but the other people left leaving Axl the only member of guns n roses in the band besides dIzzy and Axl replaced the members that left, simple as that, he has every right to still have the name. I'm not disputing the fact that he has the legal right to use the name. He demanded it and he got it. Fine. However, my feeling is that morally I disagree with it. The other band members left, of course they did. The alternative was to sit in obscurity for over a decade and be a part of something they had no control over...... legally and creatively. The fact that band members can just be replaced proves keeping the name was a businnes decision, not an emotional one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 His words are his GUNS, his heart has ROSES.HE'S THE MAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDictatorship Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I used to be of the opinion that Axl should drop the GnR name after Slash's departure, but if Axl can present a decent record, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. I mean, we've waited 3650+ days (10 years) for it, so it will hopefully be good.I will be a hard sell though, Slash in GnR is, in my opinion, equivalent to Angus Young in AC/DC.My prediction is that the record will be good, but not good enough to sustain critical acclaim or lasting fan endorsement. So after this revelation, the reformation of the O.G. Guns will be presented.I hope I didnt jinx it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickingthehabit Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 Personally I think a lot of people in today's rock music world will not accept the band as Guns N' Roses. If lots of hardcore Axl fans here don't accept the band as Guns N' Roses (I do not accept it myself either although I am not quite an Axl fan) do you think many outside these forums would?No one is going to accept this band as Guns N' Roses..Save for, of course.. this message board-Kickingthehabit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 love it or leave it.AXL owns and deserves GUNS N' ROSES.Others should wake up from the depths of idiocy, pack their bags and stand with AXL again.AXLIZZYSLASHDUFFSTEVEN= GREATEST BAND EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl-rocks Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 well what about when Tracii Guns left should Axl drop the name thenor when Izzy left should Axl drop the name?Or Rob Gardner who was the original drummer before Steven, when he left should Axl of drop the name?And these people are the original when the band got started but the band name stayed the same when they left, and yes Slash, Duff, etc did make Guns n Roses for what they were, they were a huge part of it , but they did decide to leave, it was their actions and why should Axl change the name of the band because of other band members leaving and wanted out of Guns n Roses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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